One can watch ANY internet TV/videos in many ways. I would like to summarize the way I did it and hope to learn more from your experience.

a) VCURLs72: This works on 770 and N8x0, running either 2007He or 2008Os. I just upload a file of 72 TV channels, primary.db.zip.deb here, http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=18769. This is different than the earlier 93WorldTVs. They are NOT the same materials. You can dl the primary.db file and expand in a PC and then replace your own /home/user/videocenter/primary.db with this one WARNING: make a back up copy of your own primary.db first if you want to see it again. Or you can browse the file with sqlitebrowser and add the channel one by one by yourself.

Quality of streaming internet videos on 2008Os may NOT be satisfactory, http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=19747. dl a copy and then watch always gives the best results. Again, media player seems to render the video slightly better than mplayer. However, mplayer seems to be able to stream better. Finally, "video format not support" is a blatant lie. When you see this error statment, just dl the copy and it will render.

three players on VC:
1) built in media player
2) external player
- mplayer: VC>Tools>Settings...>Player>External: /usr/bin/mplayer -cache 4096 %s
- kmplayer: VC>/usr/bin/dbus-send --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.kmplayer /com/nokia/kmplayer com.nokia.kmplayer.mime_open string:"%s" (credit to qwerty12)

b) RSS feed reader: add VC URLs into the feed and click the title of the feed. Also works on 770 running 2007He.

c) WorldTV99 using kmplayer:http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=19044. The latest edition shows a description of the TV channels. And again, you do not have to type in those channels, just dl the file 99TV4IT8d.m3u.txt and open it with kmplayer, you are watching world TVs.
Again, kmplayer includes ossoplayer and mplayer. My experience osso-player (media player) renders video much better than mplayer. However, if osso-player fails, I would switch to mplayer.
Works on 770/2007He somewhat, not smooth though.

VideoCenter and RSS feed reader are the same channels, either one is good enough. They are all USA channels. WorldTV99 is different. It has some USA channels, but they also include Asia, Europe, MiddleEast etc.

The VCURLs72 and the WorldTV99 are different channels and different contents. You should have both. They are not the same materials.

Finally, I want to have feed back or tips how other users are doing with their videocenter/RSS feed/worldTV. There are way too many parameters in optimize the players. Please share your experience.

This thread should be open for discussion of ALL internet streaming TVs/videos, tips, sources, or headaches .


Thanks.


Edit: Just test on KDE358, everything works, http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...519#post189519, and you have one more option, smplayer

Edit: when using mplayer, one can control AV sync problem with keyboard +, +100ms, and -, -100ms AV delay.


Edit: Just upload a more refined version of VCURLs72, primary3.db, feedback is greatly appreciated. Download from link at my signiture,





bun

Comments? Anybody?

To add feeds to VC is painful. As the list gets longer, it takes longer and longer for VC to close. It is NOT the case with RSS feed reader, though. I wonder what is the general census in using RSS feed vs VC. Also I would like to hear from the sqlite database guru: How to add new records to an existing primary.db or even better how to join 2 primary.db together. I only know sqlitedatabrowser.com. In this ways, hopefully I can countinue add new entry to the database and replace the primary.db with my existing one without having to open/close the primary.db in VC. Just because you ask: this posted primary.db of 72 TV channels with 1.3 MB, takes 12 min to close the VC.

One more reminder, this 72 TV channels are different from the 99TV4IT.m3u. They are NOT the same materials.


Enjoy,

bun

A minor correction: CCTV Music does work (w/ media player). In fact it is one of my favorite channels. Great ethnic Chinese and Western classical music that any one can appreciate without language skills (I just listened to the orchestra playing Tchaikovsky's Romeo and Juliet).

Thanks. I have never get it to work. I will keep trying. Is it 24/7?


bun

Thanks. I have never able to get it to work. I will keep trying. Is it 24/7?


bun

Aside from a short period of time (mid-day Eastern Standard Time), there is always something on. Remember there is a 12 hour time difference with EST.

how do i navigate into that file location to replace the .db file??....i cant do it with File Manager?!>.....is there a different directory explorer people use to be able to explore the hidden files on their tablets??....or do i have to use the commandline?"?!

Thanx!

emelFM2 - not very user friendly, try for awhile you will get the hang of it
gpe-filemanager - very close to the default file manager, but allows one to see the system files. cannot rename file, there is a bug.

browse your app manager>installable apps, chances are, they are there already. ow, /www.gronmayer.com/it/ or maemo.org both have them, search for your OS. Post back if problems,

bun

I only used 2 players. So I am going to compare media player vs mplayer (rc1-maemo.27) wrt 99WorldTV/KMplayer and VideoCenter.

mplayer 1.0rc1-maemo.27.n8x0, http://repository.maemo.org/extras-d...ree/m/mplayer/ (http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=19347)

media player 2.2007.51-3

Other media players i have NOT tried yet:
mplayer 1.0 rc2 http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=18231

VLC http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=14128

99WorldTV with KMplayer: dl the playlist here, http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=19044,, and open with KMplayer.

mplayer rc1 0.27 renders much more channels than media player, almost ALL. whereas media player renders less channels than mplayer but in general, renders better. On the good ones, either media player or mplayer will do. These are usually non USA channels. However, mplayer can work with the Dpad while on full screen where media player cannot.

In KMplayer, under window view, one can use the Dpad to move the selection of the channels one by one, and press the center of the Dpad to select the channel. This works for either media player or mplayer. Again, media player plays better, but mplayer plays more formats, or more channels.

However, in KMplayer, under full screen view, only mplayer works with the Dpad. One can still use the Dpad to select channels. Either left or right click will move to next channel and play (Yes, either L or R will move forward to the next channel. Interesting? Or a bug?). While the up and down will select previous or next channel and one has to press the center button to play. This works ONLY with mplayer while in full screen mode. While in the window mode, it works for either player.

For the mplayer, the OSD is kind of messed up under KMplayer as both of them using the Dpad. the OSD is a hit or miss situation under KMplayer.

One more point when comparing the media player vs mplayer. Media player almost never crash. If it does not work, it will NOT even attempt, it just sit there and you can safely move onto the next channel. Mplayer does not. It crashes more often. And if it stucks on a particular channel that it does not render well, you have to close kmplayer and restart.

VideoCenter: dl channels here (primary.db) and save you work to type in channels one by one, http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=18769. Same experience regarding the two players, the media player and mplayer. Mplayer plays much more formats then media player but not as good, whereas media player plays less formats but render better in general. There is one exception, CBS evening news with Katie Couric. Mplayer plays very well whereas media player is NOT playing at all. Here is my configure for the mplayer,

External:
/usr/bin/mplayer -cache 4096 %s

The above comparison is for streaming video ONLY. On playing a downloaded copy, either player plays superbly. And mplayer still plays more format then media player, even on a downloaded copy.

Couple of questions:
1) any tips about KMplayer use?
2) How do you configure mplayer under KMplayer, say to change the default audio delay from 200 ms to 0 ms? and how do you keep the change permanent.
3) The vol button works only on windowed mode and is dead when in full screen mode under KMplayer. Any get around?
4) In KMplayer, one can have either window or full screen mode. Window mode you see the TV channel description but loss screen real estate to status bar border, menu border and URL border. While the Full screen mode, you loss the TV channel descriptions. Any get around?
5) Can one set the aspect ratio under either players?
6) Is there a zoom function hidden somewhere. On some of the video clip, it as a black border on top and bottom as well as right and left. Would it be nice if one can zoom to use ALL of the screen space?

One final comment, mplayer 1.0 rc1 .27 is much better than .26 or .25, it is more smooth and crash less. Thank you Serge.

Hey, I want feedbacks and help in the above questions,

TIA,

bun

How one can do on their 770,

For the 770, you will have to install mplayer 1.0rc1-maemo.27.n770 under 2007He (4.2007.26-8). If you already have mplayer .24 or above, you can just upgrade to .27 from here, http://repository.maemo.org/extras-d...ree/m/mplayer/, from Serge, http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=19347. If you are running mplayer .18, you can upgrade to .25 first, then upgrage to .27. Otherwise, you going to run into dependency problems.

Now, you have mplayer .27 and also have the playlist file 99TV4IT9d.m3u, from here, http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=19044, say on your /media/mmc1/TV.

xterm
mplayer -playlist /media/mmc1/TV/99TV4IT9d.m3u

Bingo, you are watching world TV from your tablet, just like the those N800, N810........not quite. The 770 runs with sever stuttering and almost unwatchable. You can repeat the above command and add option nosound,

xterm
mplayer -playlist /media/mmc1/TV/99TV4IT9d.m3u -nosound

Now the video is excellent, but there is no sound .

Reportly the latest Kernel by Fanoush does include tearsync that would circumvent the problems. Anybody willing to to for it?

Oh, how are we going to swithch to different channels?

press the menu button, there will be an on screen menu show up, and pressing the choice prev<>next will allow you to choose channels previous and next.


Oh, for video center, you can just dl promary.db and replace with yours, you get 99TV for USA, instructions here, http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...ad.php?t=18769



If you have a better way to kmplayer on 770, please chime in, quite some 770 users want to run it but encounter problems. TIA,



Enjoy,

bun

enjoy,


bun