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The infamous "5-step-plan" was, AFAIK, mentioned by some Nokia-guy when the N810 was introduced. I find a lot of references to this on google, but I don't find the original source: Who said it? When? And what was the exact wording? did it really count the N810 as "step 3" (with N800 being step 2) although both devices are almost identical both hardware- and software-wise?
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Thoughtfix has the video.
It wasAri Jaaksi see below, sometime last year at an event in the US, and, yes, the N810 is step 3.
Last edited by GeneralAntilles; 2008-09-16 at 13:34.
It was
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Consider that the N810 has a keyboard and built-in GPS, as well as improved screen usability. That's enough to warrant Step 3 IMO.
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It was in fact Anssi Vanjoki ("Executive Vice President, Markets") at the Web 2.0 Summit in San Francisco last October. I can't find the exact quote, but see for example here and here.
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Originally Posted by Texrat
I hope Nokia remains aware the internal GPS leaves much to be desired...
Consider that the N810 has a keyboard and built-in GPS, as well as improved screen usability. That's enough to warrant Step 3 IMO.
It was one of the reasons I bought the N810 instead of the N800... I think the N800 with external keyboard is more functional than the N810 though because of the 2 SD cards. Just my feelings, can't compare 1 on 1... but the point of the GPS stands IMO, even with A-GPS.
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Originally Posted by lma
Hehe, thought the accent didn't quite match up in my memory of the video.
It was in fact Anssi Vanjoki ("Executive Vice President, Markets") at the Web 2.0 Summit in San Francisco last October. I can't find the exact quote, but see for example here and here.
I know thoughtfix posted a video of the talk somewhere, I can't seem to dig it up at the moment, though.
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Thank you, it's always good to see how helpful you guys are. "Anssi Vanjoki" was the piece of information I needed, thank you.
As for the N810 being step 3: It's very strange; remember when Nokia said the N810 was a sideline rather than the next generation after the N800? So they're not only counting the steps forward, there also counting when they step aside.
Anyway, this means we're talking about small steps; I now read Thoughtfix even said the WE is step 4, so whatever comes next (soon?) will be the mysterious step 5. With these minor differences, step 5 could well be something far less spectactular than I'd hoped for. (In my world, N800/N810/N810WE were all variations of step 2, so I was prepared for something really, really big in the end.)
As for the N810 being step 3: It's very strange; remember when Nokia said the N810 was a sideline rather than the next generation after the N800? So they're not only counting the steps forward, there also counting when they step aside.
Anyway, this means we're talking about small steps; I now read Thoughtfix even said the WE is step 4, so whatever comes next (soon?) will be the mysterious step 5. With these minor differences, step 5 could well be something far less spectactular than I'd hoped for. (In my world, N800/N810/N810WE were all variations of step 2, so I was prepared for something really, really big in the end.)
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Originally Posted by benny1967
It's a plan with 5 steps, don't put to much stock in the size of each steps, it's just the steps we go through to get to the consumer-ready device.
Anyway, this means we're talking about small steps; I now read Thoughtfix even said the WE is step 4, so whatever comes next (soon?) will be the mysterious step 5. With these minor differences, step 5 could well be something far less spectactular than I'd hoped for. (In my world, N800/N810/N810WE were all variations of step 2, so I was prepared for something really, really big in the end.)
No, the N810W is not step 4.
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Originally Posted by allnameswereout
It's been well communicated within our walls.
I hope Nokia remains aware the internal GPS leaves much to be desired.
Originally Posted by benny1967
In this sense it was not meant as a direct replacement, which many assumed.As for the N810 being step 3: It's very strange; remember when Nokia said the N810 was a sideline rather than the next generation after the N800? So they're not only counting the steps forward, there also counting when they step aside.
But sidestepping... eh, I won't go there.
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I don't think the N810 wimax edition was the step 4, actually.