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2009-11-12
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Well, you question is legitimate. What i don't understand is what's keeping apps written for maemo5 from working on earlier OS versions. Are they that different? I've heard voices about harmattan being backwards-compatibile as far as hardware is concerned. If it is, this should fix the problem for a pretty long while
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. There are simply not enough developers that want to both support abandoned applications ontop of developing their own, new shiny stuff.
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2009-11-12
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2009-11-12
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The *majority* of geek developers are really only interested in working on 'cool' stuff or learning something new. Things such as complete QA, maintaincement, documentation are secondary.
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Having done a lot of OSS development, and a lot of paid development, I'd strongly disagree with this.
The only difference between paid and unpaid development is that paid development (usually) has leadership which is hopefully in a fairly strong position already to be able to support developers, so, they have enough direction to be able to make things like proper QA happen.
Hobbyist developers, on the other hand, either work in groups of peer development without many formal processes, or solo - and don't have a lot of project management experience.
Both of these brushes can't be tarred across the whole spectrum, though, there are *plenty* of exceptions to every rule. It only takes high profile disasters like Windows ME - and to give a counter example, OpenSSL (and the like) to see it's possible to have it totally different from what I've outlined above.
Getting back to my point, though: what a project needs is direction. If it lacks it, all the money in the world isn't going to save it.
It's an honest post about what I feel is still troublesome and, for me, maybe one of the main reasons why I can't see myself buying an N900.
You don't have to agree at all as 'concerns' are almost per definition how you subjectively perceive something so I'm sure different people view these 'concerns' differently depending on your own paradigm.
I have an N810. I think it's a really nice piece of hardware and it is often even valuable to me (quick email checks, instant messaging, some VoiP stuff, etc) - but mostly it's a really neat toy. ( Note: For me. You may be using and viewing yours differently). Applications seem to be in a constant state of beta or stagnation as developers move on to something else (new app, new OS version, new-whatever). I know that the idea is that having the source-code made available means that someone else can/will pick it up and continue the devopment - but in most cases this doesn't happen.
I really like the concept of open-source and I think it works well in the more common distros like Ubuntu.
Maemo is very small distro in comparison, a particular OS version like Diablo, Mer and Fremantle is an even smaller subset. There are simply not enough developers that want to both support abandoned applications ontop of developing their own, new shiny stuff.
Taking into consideration that Fremantle is already a known dead-end OS version, to be replaced by Harmattan on future devices it gives me even more concerns that Fremantle, again, will be another OS with applications that gets 80% there.
If I would be willing to carry both a smartphone with 'stable'/built-out features AND an N900 I would do so simply because I think the N900 will be great fun to play with and try out new stuff in with a rather excited community. And/or if I was a college student who didn't have to have the boring stability that people in many professions require.
Sad thing is I can't see mysel carrying two phones.
Maybe I'm the only one who feels this way but in the case I am not it does make me wonder how Nokia will address such concerns in the future from professionals who wouldn't mind an open, open-sourced smart-phone as their primary phone.
.N810 experience: Since 6/2009
My Twenty Favorite OS2008 Applications:
AutoScan, Diablo5 Theme, Dialcentral, DragLock, EmelFM2, FlipClock, gPodder, Headphoned, Knots 2, Maemo Mapper, mPlayer, openNTPD, OpenSSH, Panucci, Personal Launcher, QuickNote, Seqretary, SlideLock, Telescope, YellowNotes
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