Dozens of times in the past couple of days, I've had MicroB zoomed out to the max, repeatedly pawing down till I'm blue in the face trying to get to a particular point in a web page. Thinking WHY CAN'T I JUMP TO A POINT IN THE VERTICAL SCROLLBAR?

Please someone tell me I'm missing something obvious.

I read plenty of ebooks in HTML format. I read long web pages. Heck, some of the bug pages in bugs.maemo.org are getting painful to view in MicroB for the same reason.

How does everyone else cope?

It's not just the browser, I struggle with long lists of songs or contacts (until I get the keyboard out and start -searching-, but that presumes you know exactly what you're looking for).

I'd love to be able to use the laptop technique of using the rightmost vertical edge of the touchpad as a scrolling area. Or even to be able to grab the scrollbar while it's visible and drag it about.

at least in the browser, the up/down arrows scroll (maybe only after you start scrolling)

This is the new "standard practice" in touch interfaces. Good for basic stuff, for complex interactions not so much.

Yes but they scroll at constant speed - no shift-arrow for 'fast scroll' or (better yet) fn-arrow for constant acceleration. Seems like a missed opportumity to make the interface massively more usable for large pages.

you could use space in the browser, at least that scrolls one page at a time (or something like that) and it's pretty fast. but that's just in the browser. i agree, scrollbars should be draggable, and stop disappearing

Some of the apps do use scrollbars and don't use kinetic scrolling. Those are rather difficult to use with fingers.

I agree, dragging the scroll bar would be nice, but faster kinetic scrolling with cumulatively increasing speed each time you drag across the screen would be great too. I find the kinetic scrolling slows down a bit too quickly, and on many swipes across the screen, the last bit of the swipe slows it down a lot.

nokia please read this thread!!!!!

maybe this could be put in bugzilla as a bug?? it is annoying to me that you cant grab the scroller and adjust the position

I don't think Nokia staff read this forum, except for a very few people who are, generally, extremely helpful. But they are also clearly too busy to read every thread and act on them.

Saying "please read this" in a place that someone isn't reading is a bit pointless!

If you care, better to find out how the development feedback processes work and take advantage of them... Those are far from perfect, but still a much better way to get results.

scrollbars should be useable at all times AND the keyboard!!

I agree, I have found it annoying too, but I found a workaround. It's silly but it works. To scroll long pages: rotate the browser to portrait mode, zoom out to the maximum possible, scroll to the desired position with long stylus swipes, then rotate back to landscape and zoom back to a readable level.

If you are thinking it could be put in bugzilla, then please do so! There's nothing like doing it yourself....

Don't be surprised if it ends up "wontfix" though, because feature requests often seem to, especially complex ones, and they prefer to close them than keep them open as a feature request queue. (Different places have different ways of using bug trackers.)

Changing scroll bar behaviour in a touch friendly way is a rather complex request. A Brainstorm might be better. Most likely Qt and Maemo 6 development plan would be involved, because the work needed prior to that, only to repeat it for Maemo 6, may be more than is worth doing.