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On a N900 with f/w 1.2009.42-11.203.

I've got hotmail and a vodafone.net POP3 accounts set up on my phone. Can send an receive no problems, but I've noticed these points:

1. if I synch and download an email, then delete the email via webmail, and then re-synch the phone, the email stays on the phone even though it's now been deleted from the server by another means

2. if I delete an email from my phone and then re-synch, the email stays on the server

Looks as though neither the server nor the phone looks at what has changed about the account. I know sent items don't get synched to the server and calso know that the read/unread status of an email doesn't get synch'd either, so not treating these as errors.

I had an E90 before the N900 and it worked perfectly, didn't have these two problems.

These are the settings I'm using on the N900:

***hotmail (N900):
Leave Messages on Sever: un-checked
User name: full email address
Incoming server: pop3.live.com
Secure Auth: checked
Secure Connection: SSL (POP3S)
Port: 995
Outgoing Server: smtp.live.com
Secure Auth: Login (plus full email address and pasword)
Secure Connection: Normal (TLS)
Port: 25
Use Connection-specific SMTP servers: un-checked

***vodafone (N900):
Leave Messages on Sever: un-checked
User name: user id only (not with @vodafone.net)
Incoming server: pop.vodafone.net
Secure Auth: un-checked
Secure Connection: none
Port: 110
Outgoing Server: smtp.vodafone.net
Secure Auth: Login (plus full user id and pasword)
Secure Connection: None
Port: 25
Use Connection-specific SMTP servers: un-checked

***On the E90, I had hotmail set up like this:
Incoming: SSL/TLS + Port = Default + APOP Secure Login = Off
Out: StartTLS + Port = Default

Any ideas how I can get it to in- and out-synch?

I just set up my accounts on Nokia messaging and it seems to handle it without fault.Im using Hotmail and yahoo accounts. Syncs ok a little bit to good as I found out by deleting contacts on the phone which I forgot would delete them off Hotmail server aswell.

on n900 pop3 deleted emails does not get deleted from the server. we don't have this fundemental option! you can untick leave messages on the server setting but then you won't be able to download them from pc

POP wasn't really designed to allow syncing, it supposes you download the mail and then do your stuff on the client side. IMAP is the proper solution for syncing a mailbox, but unfortunately not all providers support it.

This is no excuse for the lack of reasonable POP3 handling in Modest.

Hi itambrose and fms,

While I'm not involved with POP, it is my understanding of the protocol that it simply downloads mail. i.e. There's no synchronization or folder features available.

If you want these features, you should be looking at using IMAP.

Regards,
Eric

It's not a "missing fundamental option". If you have 'Leave messages on server' checked that is exactly how it should behave. Deleting emails on the N900 should not delete them on the server so they can be downloaded to a pc later. That's how I handle all my email. I don't want my only 'master' copies of emails to be on my phone.

What it seems you want is for each time you delete an email, for a option box to pop up with the choice to delete only from the phone or the phone and the server. That is really not possible with pop3 email.

may be i should have said "having an option to leave/delete message from server when it is deleted from the phone/cleint is a fundemental option." show me an email client that does not have that option

Show me one that does. With pop3, the decision to leave/delete on the server must be done at the time it's downloaded. Or a 2nd retrieval pass must be done to delete it.

Good description of POP vs IMAP

http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2008/0...ersus-pop.html