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2010-02-19
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Just received Peter Gabriel's "Scratch My Back" 2CD edition. While I certainly can rip the music myself, from March 2 on, there will be a 24bit/48KHz download version that was included in the price. Can I play these high-res files back on the n900 without limitation, or will they be down-converted to 16bit anyway on playback? Using my Sennheiser HD600, I found FLAC files more "airy" than lossy-compressed files, and I'd like to explore the upper limit of what is possible on the n900.
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2010-03-06
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Just downloaded the files and put them on the n900 - the quality is fantastic. Not sure about the downsampling to 16bit, but the n900 copes well with the material. Looking forward to better integration with the media player though.
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2010-03-06
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I really doubt they put 24bit/48khz dac inside the N900...
Btw, do you plug your HD600 directly to the N900 and gets enough power? I haven't tried it with my HD650...
Btw, do you plug your HD600 directly to the N900 and gets enough power? I haven't tried it with my HD650...
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2010-03-06
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Yeah, plugged it in directly. Volume is not earth shattering, but sufficient. Not very heavy on the bass, but nice soundstage and transparency.
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2010-03-06
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That's definitely underpowered then..
The 'biggest' cans I have that I'd plug into the N900 for tunes would be the ATH-ESW9.. anything larger would be pointless..
The 'biggest' cans I have that I'd plug into the N900 for tunes would be the ATH-ESW9.. anything larger would be pointless..
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2010-03-06
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maybe, but theres no way in hell the n900's analog output circuitry has enough resolution for you to hear a difference with 24-bit.
stand alone dac, sure
phone 3.5 minijack, not worth your time
stand alone dac, sure
phone 3.5 minijack, not worth your time
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2010-03-06
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OK, I get it - this ain't no machine for audiophile ambitions.
I *did*, however, listen really carefully to the entire PG album in FLAC 24bit, and there was a noticeable difference to the version I made from the CD using the iTunes plus profile (AAC 256bit VBR). The FLAC 24bit version sounded more open to my ears, the highs were a little more defined (sharp attacks & the rasping layered over PG's voice), and I also felt that the positioning of the instruments and the impression of a room were more immediate.
I might compare it with the 16bit FLAC version tomorrow - perhaps 24bit is indeed overkill, but lossless could be a worthwhile step for some material.
I *did*, however, listen really carefully to the entire PG album in FLAC 24bit, and there was a noticeable difference to the version I made from the CD using the iTunes plus profile (AAC 256bit VBR). The FLAC 24bit version sounded more open to my ears, the highs were a little more defined (sharp attacks & the rasping layered over PG's voice), and I also felt that the positioning of the instruments and the impression of a room were more immediate.
I might compare it with the 16bit FLAC version tomorrow - perhaps 24bit is indeed overkill, but lossless could be a worthwhile step for some material.
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2010-03-06
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Well, I enjoy the sound of the HD600 with the n900, but maybe I currently just don't have a decent benchmark. Perhaps I should pull my Rega Ear headphone amp from the shelf, connect the NAD 521 BEE CD player again and get a better reference point!
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2010-03-06
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well now youre comparing 24?-bit audio to itunes 256kb mp3 (not even a top-shelf encoder)
24bit flac vs 16 bit flac
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16-bit flac vs mp3
would yield more useful results
24bit flac vs 16 bit flac
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16-bit flac vs mp3
would yield more useful results
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2010-03-13
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I've got a collection of cd's encoded to flac 24 bit, but i get unable to play message when i try to play them in media player.
16 bit flac files work fine.
Does anyone know what I may be doing wrong ? or perhaps the codec limits for flac decode?
ps re audiophile headphones and the n900, I'm currently testing an external battery powered headphone amp that is proving to be truly stunning so far. its an ebay dual amp, made by a guy called neco. So far, if you're seriousely into headphone quality listening I'd recommend one.
16 bit flac files work fine.
Does anyone know what I may be doing wrong ? or perhaps the codec limits for flac decode?
ps re audiophile headphones and the n900, I'm currently testing an external battery powered headphone amp that is proving to be truly stunning so far. its an ebay dual amp, made by a guy called neco. So far, if you're seriousely into headphone quality listening I'd recommend one.