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Originally Posted by mikec View Post
http://investors.nokia.com/phoenix.z...rterlyearnings

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Except for US.
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Indeed texrat, for me it seems that the tech media in USofA enjoys to rip Nokia off... They twist the words to make sound worse than it is.

Just look at that "news" site called engadget. Palm is dying but they manage to put a finger print covered blood in Nokia news...

Is it more of "buy american" combined with USofA not being anymore such a power house in Mobile? or just the usual bashing of the funny europeans?

ps. I am not making fun, sounds that I am a bit sour with USofA but actually it is just with the media... I guess I watch too much CNN and MSNBC.
 

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It was pretty bad quarter. No idea what the USA media is saying, but the finnish media isn't happy either.

Symbian^3 delay is very bad news. Nokia needs to get S^3 out before Android eats the market. Nokia's brand strenght alone can't keep the current Android push at bay. Sales down -30% in europe during past 3 months. That's really terrible even if the usual past-christmas slowdown is taken into account.

Only good news was the suprise profit from Nokia Siemens Networks.
 

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Symbian 3 being delayed is extremely bad news.. I don't know how they are going to recover from this. Especially if symbian 3 is just mediocre or only updating the OS to current standards. It needs to be new and fresh while offering features not available on other smart phones. It can't just be a "lets catch up" situation.
 
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A couple of month's delay wouldn't be a disaster, but this product is probably even more important than the N900. As great as Maemo is, Nokia's brand image is suffering so much that even people buying 50 euro phones might start looking elsewhere due to the constant media bashing.
 
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Symbian 3 being delayed because of quality issues.
in "engineering" speak:

The code is poor quality and the UI is no cohesive or has good usability. This is usually caused by poor dev managers, junior coders, no best practices in place and allowing developers to bully QA/UI teams.

Either
-Finland has extream labor laws restricting them from firing bad employees
- they are dirt cheap and only hire junior engineers
- everyone is scared of being fired and no one speaks up when something is wrong
- extreme nepotism, politics in the workplace
 
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Symbian 3 being delayed is extremely bad news.. I don't know how they are going to recover from this. Especially if symbian 3 is just mediocre or only updating the OS to current standards. It needs to be new and fresh while offering features not available on other smart phones. It can't just be a "lets catch up" situation.
 
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You have to understand the US as well, they love apple and they love MS and google. So Android, iphone with the MS exchange thing is big over there. Nokia's last few phones have bombed over there when you compare the ease of use from the other big players, and the money they throw at product advers, development and more impiortantly support. Let's be honest Nokia are pushing a dead horse in symbian and maemo has already changed names to another style without really leaving the blocks.

Active sync is defacto for vista and win7, nokia pc suite isn't.

So the following isn't there when you compare the likes of iphone or android which is churning out model after model. Without that customer following you ain't got nowt..
 
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Originally Posted by bugelrex View Post
Either
-Finland has extream labor laws restricting them from firing bad employees
- they are dirt cheap and only hire junior engineers
- everyone is scared of being fired and no one speaks up when something is wrong
- extreme nepotism, politics in the workplace
Wildly guessing I'd bet on your first two. Nokia's last decade of software could probably provide Daily WTF material for a year if we could just get at the source. IMHO it's improving, but not fast enough.
 
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