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http://blog.laptopmag.com/mobile-fla...ves-jobs-right


Guys I dont want to start a flame war or trolling just wanted to share with you this article which might help you cope better with the fact that N900 doesnt support 10.1

Please read and post your ideas in a civilized manner


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I guess c++ is also bad because you get good apps and bad apps. Completely disagree with him about "jobs being right, flash has had its day". Movies in flash are pointless however.
 
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Ohh Screw Steve Jobs in the brain. I hate that guy badly that guy thinks he invented everything and doing everything the right way.
eg: FaceTIme, 5MP CMOS, touch screen blah blah blah

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Ohh Screw Steve Jobs in the brain. I hate that guy badly that guy thinks he invented everything and doing everything the right way.
eg: FaceTIme, 5MP CMOS, touch screen blah blah blah
100% Agree
 

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In all this... What I don't get is why isn't Flash held to the same standards that other web technologies are sometimes held to?

That is, backward compatibility.

Why couldn't newer Flash content run on older Flash players with simply the newer features disabled?

I'm thinkin' it has more to do with revenue then it does with code.

The other thing that I don't get is how come Mr. Jobs all of the sudden is the poster boy for all anti flash arguments?

The Flash ROS argument has been around since Macromedia acquired FutureSplash and Jobs was defending their right to do so in this quote about how Apple sees things:

We can sit by and watch competitors steal our patented inventions, or we can do something about it. We've decided to do something about it. We think competition is healthy, but competitors should create their own original technology, not steal ours.
--Steve Jobs, 1996 PBS documentary called "Triumph of the Nerds,"

Since then our boy Steve has said:

I've always wanted to own and control the primary technology in everything we do.
-- BusinessWeek Online, Oct. 12, 2004

...so again I'm thinkin' his argument has more to do with revenue or megalomania then it has to do with code.

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Being able to view the latest video of a celebrities crotch aside, what has alarmed me most about the direction of Flash is how it is evolving into a distribution gateway for all web content.

I recently went to a page where the sites navigation bar was only visible when flash was enabled. No ticky, no shirty. No Flash, no access to other information that the website serves even if it is simply text based.

But above all else, what I don't get is:

Why is it the manufacturers responsibility to provide the software needed to view Flash when the cost to do so will ultimately raise the cost for the device paid by the consumer and only profit the 3rd party responsible for creating the demand for it in the first place?


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For some reason all this reminds me of something Sylvester McMonkey McBean once posted on his way out of town:


...you can't teach a Sneetch
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i don't care flash player is a bad technology or not, but we need it to watch many live tv and video on web today away, you don't have it then you can't watch it, just that simple.....

hope nokia will care what the user need since many people had already make many posts about it....
 

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they dont give a **** cmsjkung, Nokia dropped the n900 made some updates, and now that we use it for a while you dont get any support of whatsoever. Only damn thing we hear is "im sorry but we dont have plans to fix this"

Im getting sick and tired of it. we bought a damn n900 wich was selled as a mobile computer wich was highly optimised for the web. After 6 months we allready cant use it to view everything anymore. and in 6 months more the device will be 75% useless on the web.

Keep in mind that most mobile users buy a phone/smartphone for aprox 2 years. so after one year you might as well throw it in the trashcan and buy a new one.

This is not the way things are supposed to go. And if nokia would have seen this then sales wouldn't drop every quarter but rise...

I really dont understand why no one within the nokia company is seeing this, and only think that they are awsome and everything is perfect.

For ones listen to the people using the device damnit!!!
 
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Originally Posted by sygys View Post
they dont give a **** cmsjkung, Nokia dropped the n900 made some updates, and now that we use it for a while you dont get any support of whatsoever. Only damn thing we hear is "im sorry but we dont have plans to fix this"
Hmm. Any support? I just installed community fixed version of hildon-desktop and pulseaudio which have not been released officially but have been fixed by nokia employees. Also hildon-desktop went open source so it means that it´s basically it gives you possibility to fix it for long as you want to fix it. And still for me it worked already since 1.1.


Im getting sick and tired of it. we bought a damn n900 wich was selled as a mobile computer wich was highly optimised for the web. After 6 months we allready cant use it to view everything anymore. and in 6 months more the device will be 75% useless on the web.
Where did you get those figures? I use this device daily on web surfing and i have almost abandoned my laptop.

Keep in mind that most mobile users buy a phone/smartphone for aprox 2 years. so after one year you might as well throw it in the trashcan and buy a new one.
Hmm. I´m having blast with this device and seems like there is interesting little things happening daily. And also it´s interesting to see how meego development is going on day by day.
This is not the way things are supposed to go. And if nokia would have seen this then sales wouldn't drop every quarter but rise...

I really dont understand why no one within the nokia company is seeing this, and only think that they are awsome and everything is perfect.

For ones listen to the people using the device damnit!!!
Hmm. I´m quite happy. Still Nokia support is not good, but i do not understand this drama queen attitude what some people have. Are you living in Jing&Jang world?

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And you have probably read flash thread where it came obvious that websites are updating flashplayer requirements even-thought content is still flash 9 compatible. "let´s shoot ourselves to foot".

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Originally Posted by HellFlyer View Post
http://blog.laptopmag.com/mobile-fla...ves-jobs-right


Guys I dont want to start a flame war or trolling just wanted to share with you this article which might help you cope better with the fact that N900 doesnt support 10.1

Please read and post your ideas in a civilized manner
Was a bad example, specially when our implementation (at difference of iPhone/iPad and all android phones) have actually mouseover support.

And if well flash is evil, is a necessary evil. Would be happy if no web devel used flash for their sites, or web video was all based on html5, and Jobs move could push in that direction. But that is how is internet today. You don't have it, then you dont access full internet (and in a far more massive way than i.e. not supporting silverlight).

About supporting flash 10, would be nice, but it won't be for long a as big as problem as not having flash at all, and with a bit of luck, new implementations could give html5 a try, instead or as alternative to their flash version (i.e. youtube)
 

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Just had a read through the comments, another clown on there who replied to the guy with his N900 assuming that he was running Symbian.

Sigh, I wish people would research before opening their mouths.
 

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