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	lcuk	2010-08-28 , 00:10
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Hi,

I submitted a keynote to be presented at the Meego Conference this year.

Maemo Community, Standing on the shoulders of giants

The Maemo community built up around the Nokia Internet Tablets has grown steadily over the last 6 years.

Over 25,000 developers have been involved in the community at different stages creating a wealth of products and knowledge, ranging from little hacks that soothed an itch, to full-blown games, kernel modules and even quality assurance procedures.

This grand ecosystem has worked steadily to produce a rock solid platform capable of supporting every usecase possible with some of the most passionate developers on the planet.

The Fremantle development catalog contains over 5000 open source applications developed over time by our eager hackers and developers.

It had a problem however, it was a limited and introspective community. Limited to its own devices, with no takeup from other manufacturers, due to the closed dependencies and issues with being fixed on a single stack.

A lot of very skillful people have pondered this problem for a long time.

Enter Meego, slick, shiny, cross platform and fully supported.

A veritable Prince Charming offering to cure all the deficiencies.
Those improvements come at a price however, that price being having to rebuild all applications from scratch in Qt.

From inception, Maemo was based around the GTK toolkit, and to date the greater majority of applications have been written in it.

Finding a pathway to bring these applications into Meego is a difficult and challenging task and will involve collaboration and planning from numerous levels.

This planning is underway at the moment and Maemo and Meego team members are working together to port the first shining light examples of GTK/Hildon applications within the handset image.

Combined with the lessons learned in community builds of the Hildon libraries and the skilled OBS hackers we believe its possible to achieve this task.

Many great Maemo applications will hopefully become available on your Meego handset devices for your continued enjoyment.

http://conference2010.meego.com/sess...oulders-giants

I also twittered about it, so please retweet as well as thanking here if you like the sound of it

http://twitter.com/lcuk/status/22307306537

I will need your help to flesh this out and to actually advance the points raised so that by the time the conference comes round we can have somethings actually implemented and tested.

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	silvermountain	2010-08-28 , 02:53
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"This grand ecosystem has worked steadily to produce a rock solid platform capable of supporting every usecase possible"

"Enter Meego, slick, shiny, cross platform and fully supported.
A veritable Prince Charming offering to cure all the deficiencies."

"...to port the first shining light examples of GTK/Hildon applications within the handset image."

Are you for real...?

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	lcuk	2010-08-28 , 03:01
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Originally Posted by silvermountain

"This grand ecosystem has worked steadily to produce a rock solid platform capable of supporting every usecase possible"

"Enter Meego, slick, shiny, cross platform and fully supported.
A veritable Prince Charming offering to cure all the deficiencies."

"...to port the first shining light examples of GTK/Hildon applications within the handset image."

Are you for real...?

obviously not, what is your issue specifically?

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	frostbyte	2010-08-28 , 04:06
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he doesn't like the word "shiny". i like it.

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	Stskeeps	2010-08-28 , 06:09
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Originally Posted by lcuk

I submitted a keynote to be presented at the Meego Conference this year.

Just to get definitions right in MeeGo conference terms, keynote presentations are pre-selected before review/submission process and in a certain time slot (very start of conference)*.

Sessions are the ones that are submitted, reviewed and put into a program. Yours is a session, not a keynote :P

(I'll refrain from commenting on the proposal in general as I'll be reviewing it)

* I guess keynotes is better defined as 'opening talks' which sometimes has to be carefully selected.

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	scribbles	2010-08-28 , 06:13
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Originally Posted by silvermountain

Are you for real...?

Wow, the pessimism that plagues this "community" is both jaw dropping and disgusting....

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	silvermountain	2010-08-28 , 06:50
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Originally Posted by scribbles

Wow, the pessimism that plagues this "community" is both jaw dropping and disgusting....

I wonder if you see the irony in your own post..........

For 'the record' my comment wasn't meant to sound too harsh but i do feel that the piece was way too 'praising' to the point that I actually wondered if it was sarcasm.

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conny	2010-08-28 , 08:30
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Icuk, could you please elaborate a bit? Who exactly is working on what?

Originally Posted by lcuk

This planning is underway at the moment and Maemo and Meego team members are working together to port the first shining light examples of GTK/Hildon applications within the handset image.

Thanks!
Conny

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	lcuk	2010-08-28 , 09:13
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Originally Posted by conny

Icuk, could you please elaborate a bit? Who exactly is working on what?

Thanks!
Conny

Hey Conny,

we have a good many people looking, but one of the principle quotes comes directly from stskeeps

Stskeeps i'll try to port maemopad, the mother of all maemo applications.

http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23mae...08-25T18:57:49

There is interest and discussion in the #maemo-ssu channel involving a bunch of maemo luminaries including MohammadAG and Jaffa and a load of others, as well as ongoing discussions in #meego and #meego-arm between a large group of maemo enthusiasts.

lbt is looking closely at the OBS with x-fade and the bunch there moving things on.

stskeeps, if something as wide reaching and community beneficial as this is not a keynote then I don't know what is.

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conny	2010-08-28 , 09:31
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Originally Posted by lcuk

Hey Conny,

we have a good many people looking, but one of the principle quotes comes directly from stskeeps

http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23mae...08-25T18:57:49

There is interest and discussion in the #maemo-ssu channel involving a bunch of maemo luminaries including MohammadAG and Jaffa and a load of others, as well as ongoing discussions in #meego and #meego-arm between a large group of maemo enthusiasts.

lbt is looking closely at the OBS with x-fade and the bunch there moving things on.

stskeeps, if something as wide reaching and community beneficial as this is not a keynote then I don't know what is.

Thanks Gary! There´s a lot going on, but not really one place to get all the pieces and I was wondering if you´re talking about someone being sponsored by the 50K, a real community effort or something entirely different. So, thanks for the heads up.