I had just saw the demo video of MeeGo and I find it is very similar to Maemo 5.

MeeGo provide better portrait support, but no more surprise.




I am thinking, what is the reason for

switching from Android to MeeGo if I am using an Android phone ?

HTC had created fantastic UI for Android OS and it is very hard for NOKIA to exeed.


Pure Linux OS is cool for geek. But Apps are also important for mobile device.

MeeGo just changed the package manage system for deb to rpm.
But the function is very similar to Maemo 5, I think.

I hope N9 will not be N900 v2 ...


(But as an N900 owner, I want N900 become a timeless classic model, and do not want N9 to be very perfect)


So, what's the future for MeeGo ?

Will it become a great OS ?

your seeing vanilla MeeGo what will be built upon by the vendors using it adding there own Ui's just like HTC do with Android.
the UI you see in that video is probably not what you will see on a nokia MeeGo device.

Odd, I see many people complaining about the MeeGo UI.

Because you want a Nokia device? Or perhaps you don't like how Android works and none of the other options appeal to you?

That's assuming you like SenseUI.

For the masses, yes. Which is part of why Nokia is taking this path.

We don't know. I certainly hope so.

I just feel that NOKIA was r@ped in the MeeGo project with Intel.

Intel can get many benefits through this.

Intel can introduce its x86 CPU into mobile device market,

to compete with ARM, even replace ARM in the future.

And NOKIA provide a perfect platform for Intel.


And NOKIA did not get any benefits.

Maemo had go through 5 generations and Maemo 5 is good.

MeeGo use rpm package manage system, it is more like Moblin, not Maemo.

IMO, I think Nokia just 'rebuild' the Maemo 5 with rpm system, that's MeeGo.

And the function of MeeGo is exactly the same as Maemo 5.

In this process, it takes money, it takes people.

Most important, it takes time. N9 release is delayed.

And when N9 released, there will be Android 2.3 / iPhone 5.

Many Tagra2 device, maybe.

N9 will not be advanced by that time.

How N9 release can be delayed if Nokia hasn't even released the date yet?

And more importantly how can it be delayed if it doesn't exist officially yet?

I do agree that nokia's move from maemo to meego is certainly a risk, if it didn't happened then I am pretty sure maemo users would have got at least thrice more number of apps as of now, agreed some apps might have similar objectives, but certainly n900 would have become n95 of today, a successful and dream phone for lots of people.

I also agree with Joseph9560 that Maemo to Meego is a risk that Nokia is taking.

Where I don't agree is I could not see Maemo move Nokia to the for-front of the smartphone market, with Meego I can see this future especially when you include all the other devices that are going to run on Meego (TV, Tablet, DVD, etc..) and therefore better integration between these devices and my smartphone, they also needed a large partner and Intel provides this.

I think that Nokia took a very well educated risk in moving to Meego, now only time will tell if this risk brings any fruit.

Well there is at least improvements in Meego vs Maemo; that rpm-system with GPG-signatures embedded. You just need to do Google search to see how vulnerable maemo software packaging system is in practise.

Also of course there is a benefit that an another large player (Intel) is supporting the system (MeeGo vs Maemo).

Android's Dalvik has some good points (JIT-language) in computer science wise compared to old fashioned c/c++-only paradigm.

However, what is not so good about Android is that is forking Linux development to unstandardized path and taking away freedom.

Meego is the only OS currently cabable to get all that if developed wisely. There is no theoretical restriction to port Apple applications to Meego and run Dalvik/Java SE/Java ME -applications in Meego under ported virtual machines (VMs.)

Please present those benefits, that would have been impossible without Nokia's involvement

They can do that without Nokia.

They can do that without Nokia.

Nokia hasn't provided a complete open-source platform for Meego. A number of components replacing what was previously proprietary under Maemo were contributed to by Intel.

So some of Intel's in-kernel work on improving boot times is irrelevant? Intel's contributions to the ofono telephony stack are irrelevant?

This a very minor change compared to switching the entire user interface from GTK/hildon to Qt, which Nokia had already decided on long before the Maemo+Moblin merge.

You should consider how much work Maemo6 would have been, and compare to the work Nokia has done for Meego, and the additional benefits (for users and Nokia) that Meego has over Maemo6.

For example, an entire firmware (and all the components to build it) are freely distributable, and the majority (excluding some of the binary firmware for some components) supporting N900, as well as some components supporting other devices, is open source. This is quite a major change from Maemo 5, and will make it substantially easier for the community to provide more customisations and fixes.

So porting from GTK+/hildon to Qt would take no time at all?

How can you know? You don't know what N9 will be ...

The two biggest advantages Intel brings are:
-more experienced developers, so development on non-differentiating features is shared, so progress may be faster and cheaper
-Creating a bigger market of devices with the same runtime environment, making a more attractive target for developers, meaning more applications should be available
-Not a consequence of Meego, but the switch to Qt means that a lot more code could be shared between user interfaces on Symbian3/Symbian4, and Meego (including Intel)+Symbian provides quite a huge target for developers, one that cannot be ignored

Also consider that if/when Intel-based phones arrive, Meego will be the de-facto platform. Would you have preferred it to be Win7?