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Starting a new brand from zero is no simple matter.
And they will be missing a LOT of elements that they've taken from granted in Nokia.
It's a very risky and costly endeavor, that I'd be surprised if they can get financing for it.
And they will be missing a LOT of elements that they've taken from granted in Nokia.
It's a very risky and costly endeavor, that I'd be surprised if they can get financing for it.
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Originally Posted by ysss
In general yes, but "NOT Nokia, doing MeeGo" could be a very powerfull brand right now.
Starting a new brand from zero is no simple matter.
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Definitely risky.. They'd have to convince the investors that Meego was actually the correct way to go. But everyone would know these people are ex-Nokia, not matter what brand they pick.
They would probably only be able to focus on a few models of mid to high-end phones (since Symbian would definitely be out the picture), but they could bring lots of know-how to the table for the R&D.
They would probably only be able to focus on a few models of mid to high-end phones (since Symbian would definitely be out the picture), but they could bring lots of know-how to the table for the R&D.
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Originally Posted by lma
Yeah, that's not the topic of this thread.
In general yes, but "NOT Nokia, doing MeeGo" could be a very powerfull brand right now.
Originally Posted by nephridium
The real question is how can they convince the customers that Brand_X AND MeeGo is the way to go.
Definitely risky.. They'd have to convince the investors that Meego was actually the correct way to go. But everyone would know these people are ex-Nokia, not matter what brand they pick.
We know those people are ex nokia, but a huge majority of customers out there are not like us. They don't follow tech blogs/forums to notice these little details.
Be objective. Take a step back. Don't think the world revolves only around yourself.
They would probably only be able to focus on a few models of mid to high-end phones (since Symbian would definitely be out the picture), but they could bring lots of know-how to the table for the R&D.
Not necessarily risk everything out trying to start their own brand and start from scratch. (And be at disadvantage against the more established potential MeeGo partners).
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Nokia still needs the Hardware people to create WP7 phones. So if they only dismiss Software Developers and you hire all of those you're still unable to build a phone.
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Originally Posted by nephridium
I asked a similar question in another thread about Alberto Torres, who left as head of MeeGo at Nokia on Feb 10. Anyone know what he's doing?
Let's throw out a far-fetched hypothetical here:
What if Anssi Vanjoki (anyone know what he's currently doing?) were to start his own company that would take many of the already and soon to be layed off Nokians to produce phones that run Meego? Would MSNokia be able to stop them? What would happen?
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C'mon folks! I'm starting to wonder if Meego will end world hunger or able to power up your next generation cars...or end iPhone's reign?...No it won't!
Thinking some ex-Nokians will just bet their lives for a Meego start up is not going to happen. Simply because Meego will still cater for the niche market like Maemo - Now compare that with the mass market who just wants a phone and nothing to do with development stuffs. 20/80 already sounds optimistic.
It could become someone's project, but simply not attractive enough for banks to spill out loans for any start ups. Let's not forget where Maemo (perception) failed - marketing and support. Without those, even if you had Meego in iPhones it may also end up the same fate as our N900.
So, let's move on! Get a playstation or something (Sorry, no offense intended, I'm just concerned seeing how many new threads about this got generated since last Friday). I still enjoy my N900 very much and not bother with succession plans yet.
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Thinking some ex-Nokians will just bet their lives for a Meego start up is not going to happen. Simply because Meego will still cater for the niche market like Maemo - Now compare that with the mass market who just wants a phone and nothing to do with development stuffs. 20/80 already sounds optimistic.
It could become someone's project, but simply not attractive enough for banks to spill out loans for any start ups. Let's not forget where Maemo (perception) failed - marketing and support. Without those, even if you had Meego in iPhones it may also end up the same fate as our N900.
So, let's move on! Get a playstation or something (Sorry, no offense intended, I'm just concerned seeing how many new threads about this got generated since last Friday). I still enjoy my N900 very much and not bother with succession plans yet.
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It's risky.
It's costly.
But now there is an opportunity to stablish a new brand based on Meego focused in only one terminal on the very high end (ala iPhone).
That opportunity didn't exist before with Nokia going to Meego.
It's costly.
But now there is an opportunity to stablish a new brand based on Meego focused in only one terminal on the very high end (ala iPhone).
That opportunity didn't exist before with Nokia going to Meego.
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Originally Posted by Joseph.skb
There are actually many people who do believe Linux could "end world hunger or be able to power up your next generation cars"... and yes, even "end iPhone's reign" but this is not the point of this thread.
C'mon folks! I'm starting to wonder if Meego will end world hunger or able to power up your next generation cars...or end iPhone's reign?...No it won't!
I just thought it was interesting (to others as well) to ponder the scenario of ex-Nokians joining up to build an alternative based on a cross-platform open OS. Elop has already announced huge job cuts, if WP7 were to flop they'd likely continue firing some of the hardware crew or even close some branches as well (similarly to Ericsson before its merger with Sony). Some high profile staff might leave on their own and what better place to go than a company run by ex-Nokians?
Originally Posted by Joseph.skb
So you come to the maemo forums and wonder why lots of people are outraged about the fact that they have been stabbed in the back? I wish you strength, Joseph..
So, let's move on! Get a playstation or something (Sorry, no offense intended, I'm just concerned seeing how many new threads about this got generated since last Friday).
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What if Anssi Vanjoki (anyone know what he's currently doing?) were to start his own company that would take many of the already and soon to be layed off Nokians to produce phones that run Meego? Would MSNokia be able to stop them? What would happen?