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2015-11-25
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The tablet doesn't interest me personally, but I would be definitely interested in getting a certified Sailfish build for a generic Android phone (I know this exists, but very often things are broken!) with regular updates/patches/features for a year.
Let's say we launch an IndieGogo (doesn't matter how it gets funded) and we get 50,000 backers willing to put €20 in for 1 year support?
That's €950,000 - is that chump change, or could it keep Sailfish alive?
Let's say we launch an IndieGogo (doesn't matter how it gets funded) and we get 50,000 backers willing to put €20 in for 1 year support?
That's €950,000 - is that chump change, or could it keep Sailfish alive?
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2015-11-25
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Originally Posted by NokiaFanatic
They need €10 million or thereabouts.
That's €950,000 - is that chump change, or could it keep Sailfish alive?
To OP: while the options are sound, you don't explain how they will make money - are these images going to be sold or will Jolla depend on further investment from igg/ks campaigns?
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2015-11-25
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What about a Opensource everything Jolla legally can target ?
Could have sub bounties/targets like:
Could have sub bounties/targets like:
- adding the opensourced components to Mer bugzilla
- documenting the released components
- x months of infrastructure hosting costs
- x months of bug triage meetings
- designating maintainers for x packages
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2015-11-25
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Originally Posted by ggabriel
Jolla needs about EUR 10 miilion for each year of operation, AFAIK. So some miilions of EUR would save Jolla Tablet and keep Jolla alive for some months. With more users, then Jolla could be profitable in 2016.
They need €10 million or thereabouts.
To OP: while the options are sound, you don't explain how they will make money - are these images going to be sold or will Jolla depend on further investment from igg/ks campaigns?
The images for tablet and other smartphones would be free, but available after Jolla work to make them more finished (all features working, almost all sensors supported, simple to install and update, etc).
Jolla would colaborate with HADK developers, improving the effort to make Sailfish OS a serious mobile OS for some selected smartphones and tablets.
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Integral, Derivative, Limit - calculating mathematical integrals, derivatives and limits. SymPy - Computer Algebra System.
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Sailfish : Sony Xperia X, Gemini, Jolla, Jolla C, Jolla Tablet, Nexus 4. Nokia N9, N900, N810.
Python, C/C++, Qt and CAS developer. For Maemo/MeeGo/Sailfish :
Integral, Derivative, Limit - calculating mathematical integrals, derivatives and limits. SymPy - Computer Algebra System.
MatPlotLib - 2D & 3D plots in Python. IPython - Python interactive shell.
-- My blog about mobile & scientific computing ---
Sailfish : Sony Xperia X, Gemini, Jolla, Jolla C, Jolla Tablet, Nexus 4. Nokia N9, N900, N810.
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2015-11-25
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The community could never raise €10M to keep Jolla alive as it is. Anyway, I am not sure it should, even if it could. What I am suggesting is that maybe there is a way we can keep SailfishOS (not Jolla the company) going on a lower budget. If we ditched corporate expenses like CEO's, office space, etc. perhaps we could keep Jolla going on a community basis (but with some paid developers)?
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2015-11-25
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Jolla should be more open to collaborate with community.
e.g. integrate our transifex project https://www.transifex.com/jozef-mlich/jolla-cesky/
e.g. integrate our transifex project https://www.transifex.com/jozef-mlich/jolla-cesky/
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2015-11-25
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Originally Posted by NokiaFanatic
Office move is already ongoing.
The community could never raise €10M to keep Jolla alive as it is. Anyway, I am not sure it should, even if it could. What I am suggesting is that maybe there is a way we can keep SailfishOS (not Jolla the company) going on a lower budget. If we ditched corporate expenses like CEO's, office space, etc. perhaps we could keep Jolla going on a community basis (but with some paid developers)?
Originally Posted by xmlich02
Yeah - I think ignoring people wanting to help is perhaps the biggest mistake Jolla did and it is definitely a contributing factor to the current dire situation.
Jolla should be more open to collaborate with community.
e.g. integrate our transifex project https://www.transifex.com/jozef-mlich/jolla-cesky/
Can Jolla still turn around or is it too late ? I guess we will see one way or the other - but finally letting people to help you could be the first step.
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2015-11-25
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As far as I understood from the last meeting log, it seems that in case of definitive Jolla closing, SFOS will be fully open (except that can't be open like Alien Dalvik and keyboard prediction).
In such case, as we're on TMO, I'm sure TMOers will get involved to maintain SFOS as some folks already do with Maemo.
At that time, I'll pay to keep this alive. I'm not interested in the tablet too, but I'm also ready to pay to have an official N5 image, not sure this would help Jolla.
In such case, as we're on TMO, I'm sure TMOers will get involved to maintain SFOS as some folks already do with Maemo.
At that time, I'll pay to keep this alive. I'm not interested in the tablet too, but I'm also ready to pay to have an official N5 image, not sure this would help Jolla.
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2015-11-25
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You want people who didn't buy a tablet to fund the delivery of the tablet to other people?
You'd have to be very community minded to do that!
IMHO, the important thing to salvage is the OS. I wouldn't fund anything unless it was to open source the OS, provide infrastructure, bug trackers and fund core development staff.
It's up to Jolla to make good on the delivery of tablets, not the community.
You'd have to be very community minded to do that!
IMHO, the important thing to salvage is the OS. I wouldn't fund anything unless it was to open source the OS, provide infrastructure, bug trackers and fund core development staff.
It's up to Jolla to make good on the delivery of tablets, not the community.
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- the "The Future of Jolla's Tablet" topic;
- Together.Jolla.com as an idea;
How to save the Jolla Tablet and Sailfish OS ?
Jolla should make available choices for the community to finance Jolla & Sailfish OS :
1) Indiegogo campaing to finance Jolla :
* finishing the Jolla Tablet deliveries;
* further developing Sailfish OS 2.x for tablets;
* making Sailfish OS 2.x for tablet available as an image to install on one or two popular and available tablet(s) (with open bootloader, maybe Nexus 9, etc).
2) Indiegogo campaing to finance Jolla :
* further development of Sailfish OS in general;
* making Sailfish OS 2.x for other smartphones as an image to install on some popular and available smartphones (with open bootloader, like some Nexus 5/6, etc).
3) Alien Dalvik could be a paid option to whom want it in these non-Jolla smartphones & tablets.
I would pay for the 3 above options.
I think these initiatives could bring some millions of US$ to Jolla.
Python, C/C++, Qt and CAS developer. For Maemo/MeeGo/Sailfish :
Integral, Derivative, Limit - calculating mathematical integrals, derivatives and limits. SymPy - Computer Algebra System.
MatPlotLib - 2D & 3D plots in Python. IPython - Python interactive shell.
-- My blog about mobile & scientific computing ---
Sailfish : Sony Xperia X, Gemini, Jolla, Jolla C, Jolla Tablet, Nexus 4. Nokia N9, N900, N810.
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