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Laughing Man 2009-12-17 15:18

Re: allbum art appearing in photos
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 431788)
If you put it in a directory that's indexed by tracker, it has to show up with all the other image files. If you don't want this, just put it somewhere else. What's the problem?

The problem is unless tracker has a specific per file rule then then your music won't be indexed.

markusm 2009-12-17 15:19

Re: allbum art appearing in photos
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by benny1967 (Post 431966)
So I think this is what we need. A UI for tracker. It must not tell users that it's a UI for tracker, because they won't know what tracker is and what is mean by "exclude from indexing". It should refer to media player and image viewer and give some hints like "add directories you want to hide from meida player here".
(An advanced settings dialog should then allow to control all aspects of tracker.)

This would be nice indeed.

benny1967 2009-12-17 16:45

Re: allbum art appearing in photos
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Laughing Man (Post 431984)
The problem is unless tracker has a specific per file rule then then your music won't be indexed.

Stop. I'm confused now.

Just for me to understand the facts... Is the follwing correct?
  • The Maemo Media Player only interprets what's correctly embedded in the MP3 itself as album art. It doesn't interpret external files as album art and show them during music playback.
  • You copy JPEGs to the N900 that are interpreted by other players as album art. The music you copy does not have the album art embedded inside the MP3.
  • You copy JPEGs and MP3s to the same folder on the N900.
  • The image viewer shows these JPEGs as it show any other image file. The Media Player only plays the music and shows a generic symbol.

Is that it? Or did I get it wrong again?

Laughing Man 2009-12-17 16:48

Re: allbum art appearing in photos
 
I believe yes, the media player only interprets what's correctly embedded in the mp3 so those folder.jpgs or cover.jpgs are what's being picked up by tracker and placed into images. However, (I haven't looked at tracker's config yet) if you tell it not to scan the music directory then it won't pick up the media files when they're added. Yes, you could move the album art to another folder and not have that indexed but once another media player arrives and uses those images, what now.

benny1967 2009-12-17 18:05

Re: allbum art appearing in photos
 
So basically what you do is you copy pictures to the N900 that serve no purpose there and annoy you? - Why?

From my point of view,. what Maemo 5 does is correct. Album art goes into the MP3 file and is read from there. JPEG-files are just that: images... and treated as such.

The more I think of it, the more I believe any other way ot treat it would be a bug. ;)

Laughing Man 2009-12-17 18:14

Re: allbum art appearing in photos
 
Because if you want to use another media player that does use those .jpgs for cover art (as the N900 seems to be hit and miss for me. Two albums have no cover art despite having the same tagging scheme and versions as all the other album art) then you won't have cover art in that program. You could then argue then disable tracking for that folder but what if you want the default media player to still pick it up?

The best solution would just be to have tracker be configurable for what folders it scans and what it should include or not include when scanning those folders.

lcuk 2009-12-17 18:29

Re: allbum art appearing in photos
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by z3phyr (Post 431739)
i added a bunch of songs with album art, now when i open photos its full of the album art images.

is it just me?

and the album art dont even show up in the player


hey z3phyr,
care to tell us which specific folders and filenames the pictures are coming from?
and also which folder you are storing your mp3 files in

jaysire 2009-12-17 18:50

Re: allbum art appearing in photos
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rockabase (Post 431746)
yeah i have noticed this too
the music player only seens to recogniswe album art that has been embeddded into the mp3 id tag (i do this using media monkey on windows,not found a way for mac yet)

I use Simple Tagger for mac. It's really really crappy, but I found a way that works well without screwing up my mp3:s, so as long as I do staff the same way every time, it is perfect for my needs. I did have it screw up an album once, but I had a backup.

Odd_gunnic 2009-12-17 18:56

Re: allbum art appearing in photos
 
Don't know much about what been open sourced, but an app, much like hermes would be awesome for collecting album art...

Webbie 2009-12-18 02:12

Re: allbum art appearing in photos
 
Before we get too carried away with making a UI for the tracker, am I alone in feeling that the tracker is fundamentally misguided?

Why is there a standalone media indexing service on my portable device when specifying a couple of library directories on a per-application basis would do just as well? In fact I would prefer this behavior. I'm not saying that indexing your media is bad, but the applications themselves can do that if required.

Expecting album art to be embedded in your media files establishes a terrible precedent - not only is it misguided from a data association perspective, but it also forces you to store the same image on your device twelve times. In addition, it precludes support for formats which do not allow the use of ID3 tags (ogg).


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