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naabi 2011-02-16 12:36

Re: What if..
 
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Originally Posted by ivgalvez (Post 947880)
It's risky.
It's costly.

But now there is an opportunity to stablish a new brand based on Meego focused in only one terminal on the very high end (ala iPhone).

That opportunity didn't exist before with Nokia going to Meego.

It still needs the ecosystem supporting it. It could utilized Google Maps, but how about navigation? It could also utilize other Google services as it's primary customer targetted services. It's possible to implement support for corporate services There's quite work to be done with e.g. Active Sync and remote management software that corporates want to have in place.

Most of all it needs the support for commercial software development. What will happen to Qt? It's quite risky to rely on that. Maybe a limited API like with Andoid or iOS will do it, but how about decent developer tools with a nice IDE and emulator? What about WebOS approach?

Ok, the list is somewhat endless, but with unlimited resources you could target to launch something special after two years. Befere this two year period you need time to ramp up the organization.

ivgalvez 2011-02-16 12:48

Re: What if..
 
You have all the tools and software needed right now. It's more a question of effectiveness (what Nokia lacks).

Take a look at Canonical, they have millions of users of Ubuntu with a very limited company (of course taking advantage of open source and a strong community). The same could happen in a Mobile OS.

I'm not talking about beating Apple nor any other of the established companies, I'm talking about a startup without too much structural costs. All the hardware should be subcontracted to an Asian company and focus on software polishing (based on open source technologies) and design.

There is no need for such an ecosystem. There are open source alternatives to almost everything, they just need to build a service for monetizing apps with a good Qt GUI (forget OVI) and agreements with other publishers (say Amazon) for media content distribution.

They could partner with Myriad for a fast population of applications at the beginning (with time, there will be more Qt apps, specially when project Lighthouse emerges in iOS and Android).

Just my two cents.

Joseph.skb 2011-02-16 12:51

Re: What if..
 
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Originally Posted by nephridium (Post 947913)
There are actually many people who do believe Linux could "end world hunger or be able to power up your next generation cars"... and yes, even "end iPhone's reign" but this is not the point of this thread.

If that was true, then I suppose it justifies all these threads.

Quote:

Originally Posted by nephridium (Post 947913)
I just thought it was interesting (to others as well) to ponder the scenario of ex-Nokians joining up to build an alternative based on a cross-platform open OS. Elop has already announced huge job cuts, if WP7 were to flop they'd likely continue firing some of the hardware crew or even close some branches as well (similarly to Ericsson before its merger with Sony). Some high profile staff might leave on their own and what better place to go than a company run by ex-Nokians?

I think ex-Nokians would not want anything to do with the company, unless (again) Meego was do darn good and ends world hunger...powers your car...

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Originally Posted by nephridium (Post 947913)
So you come to the maemo forums and wonder why lots of people are outraged about the fact that they have been stabbed in the back? I wish you strength, Joseph.. ;)

I don't mean to sound insensitive or offend anyone, but I just feel the amount of frustration since last Friday just won't help anything. We're talking like it's already the end of the world (for our N900) and making succession plans when the N900 is still around. Lucky we're not talking about someone's wife!

I mean, first, is there anything else we can improve with Maemo? Could there be a brighter light out there instead of Meego?

Anyway, if all these ravings and rantings actually will help the community, then it's great, and please count me in. Otherwise...thanks, and I'll go watch a movie instead...

nephridium 2011-02-16 13:00

Re: What if..
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by naabi (Post 947918)
Most of all it needs the support for commercial software development. What will happen to Qt? It's quite risky to rely on that. Maybe a limited API like with Andoid or iOS will do it, but how about decent developer tools with a nice IDE and emulator? What about WebOS approach?

The thing is that Meego is still being actively developed by all the other parties. And since it is Linux it could interface quite effortlessly with all Unix-based services that are already in existence. No need to build a whole new infrastructure for a whole new "ecosystem"..

Obviously the Handset UX was basically in the hands on Nokia until now, but that's where the devs come in: once WP7 sets in they will be 'set free'. I mean, what need is there for an "experimental division" if what counts is the bottom line and costs need to be cut, right?


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