Re: Google/Android/T-Moblie G1
 

just grab the android sdk, slap a G1 skin on the emulator there, presto, fully working android...

Re: Google/Android/T-Moblie G1
 

My G1 arrived yesterday. I hate the keypad so far.

Re: Google/Android/T-Moblie G1
 

Compared to the iPhone though, its better than typing on glass

Re: Google/Android/T-Moblie G1
 

I like the keypad MUCH more than I do the N810's keypad. I wish it had an actual control key on it (when using the ConnectBot ssh client, you have to use the trackball as a control toggle). My list of complaints is actually rather short and mostly minor:

• Lack of Control key
• Lack of Tethering
• Lack of Dpad (I HATE tackballs).
• Lack of tilt screen
• Poor battery endurance (mostly mitigated by being able to charge at any USB port)
• Poor ergonomic placement of the USB port (sticks out into your hand when you're trying to use the keyboard and charge at the same time)

I think the port placement, tethering, and trackball are my biggest complaints.

If they had made something like a cross between the HTC Touch HD and HTC Touch Pro (the Touch Pro keyboard combined with the screen of the HD), with better port placement, it'd be the perfect hand held for me (from the hardware side of things).

I do sort of wish that the device was more symmetric (one chin, with a bit more drastic a drop between the chin face and keyboard; where I would prefer two "chins" and a straight slide instead of arc slide), but it's not turning out to be a big deal to me. I also sort of wish it had separate ports for the headset and data/charging port, but that's really minor (esp. since there are adapters for splitting that out).

Re: Google/Android/T-Moblie G1
 

getting closer on that one..
http://graha.ms/androidproxy/

hate to admit it but my g1 has replaced my n810 in my purse, mostly due to not having to tether it to my phone just to do a simple web lookup.. because, well, it's the phone itself ^_^

my n810 has become my kitchen recipe terminal/jukebox control mostly.

Re: Google/Android/T-Moblie G1
 

in my experience, it takes no longer for the tablet to connect via tether, then it does connection to a wifi network. that is, ones things are correctly set up and one leave the bluetooth of the phone on (but "hidden").

Re: Google/Android/T-Moblie G1
 

But what winterhasnoname is saying is that the G1 does not have to connect to anything, because it is always connected! Just click the browser and boom!

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It's been the lack of tethering, and the somewhat usurious internet price plan, that have been real deal-breakers for me (and I've not seen any G1s available via other sources, yet). I went away from the Verizon/ATT devils because I grew tired of hacking my phones to get what I wanted. (Bought a Samsung X820, popped in a T-Mobile chip, and have been happy ever since).

I like the speed prospect of G3 (though I meet a lot of disgruntled G3 users at work), and am looking for to it. I might even "suck it up" and pay for the internet pricing plan -- but I'm not going back to hacking my own phone to get tethering capabilities .... (I'll wait until I can pick up unlocked G1s elsewheres ....)

Re: Google/Android/T-Moblie G1
 

heh, while i cant comment on the G1 specifically, its more like click the browser, wait for the connection to be set up, then boom. basically just as long as it takes my N800 to connect via my phone, plus maybe the second or two it takes me to tell the N800 to use the phone rather then a local wifi network.

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And the people who make WMWifiRouter are working on a solution as well. Though, while they admitted they're working on it, they haven't committed to delivering it.

Yeah, my N810 hasn't been turned on in over a week. I don't even carry it in my gear bag anymore.

Thoughts I've had for my two N800's and N810:

• If there was a workable USB HSPA or EVDO modem for it, and it could be made to act as a wifi access point, use it as a "cradlepoint personal hotspot" type device, until real tethering is available for the G1. This could be used to give my netbook access to the internet, AND as a secondary data source for the G1 (utilizing AT&T or Verizon or Sprint's 3G networks via wifi).
• Using two 16GB SDHC cards in the N800, and adding some sort of file sharing layer, making it a mobile file server that could hopefully be utilized by both my netbook and the G1.
• With better clock+alarm software than what comes with them, I could use an N800 as a replacement for my current (and very old) alarm clock. (I'm thinking full screen digital clock face, perhaps with an optional sun clock background (but the digits must remain readable at all times), alarms as flexible as cron and at, with each alarm having its own selectable sound ... the built in clock mostly loses on the "full screen clock face" requirement, from the last time I used it)
• Perhaps at some point making one into a home automation remote control. If I don't end up being able to use the G1 for that at some point.

Re: Google/Android/T-Moblie G1
 

i'm currently thinking about buying a G1...
But i've found different specs.. one site says it has a 800x480 resolution screen, the other site says it has a 480x320 resolution screen... What is the truth now??
Also are there other reasons to prevent me to buy a G1?

Thanks!

Re: Google/Android/T-Moblie G1
 

The G1 uses a 480x320 pixel, 3.2 inch touchscreen.

Negatives include bad battery life, and imho the extreme integration of Google services into the OS (but YMMV on that aspect, of course).

A couple of reviews that should make your decision easier:
http://www.engadget.com/2008/10/16/t-mobile-g1-review/
http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/...-33283585.html
http://www.brighthand.com/default.asp?newsID=14533

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thanks chlettn...
with that resolution i'm not thinking about buying the g1 anymore...

happy n900 waiting...

Re: Google/Android/T-Moblie G1
 

IMO, the two big negatives are:

1) The battery life (get the external charger that T-Mobile sells; it's not perfect, but it does help)

2) Lack of Tethering.

There are some other small things (Google Reader doesn't allow shortcuts nor tag editing, Gmail has a few missing features, there's no SyncML client for Calendar yet, the SSH and VNC clients (3rd party) doesn't completely work together, and the IM client lacks some things).

But the two big ones are the battery and the tethering.