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I understand that Apple's shares have done badly in the last hour or so. Which suggests that people here are not the only ones unimpressed. Of course, I'd expect people here to unimpressed. ;)

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This is Apple. I doubt you should expect anything other than maybe a (inaccurate - it is capacitive after all) scribbling application and maybe a voice recorder. I would be surprised if it were allowed to use BT keyboards or input devices.

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itampon ftl lets just forget it

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Exactly what I want. The N900 is already really good, but until we get morph/screens that can be stretched, a pocket sized device will only get you so far. And I don't want a laptop either.

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2.44 down to 203.5 isn't exactly what I'd call "badly".

Actually... 1.06 up at the moment to 207.00 now.

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But indeed you are right... I was just kidding :)

Well if Nokia continues shotting itself on the foot, I might consider selling fruits in the municipal market.

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Well, Apple's stock always goes down prior to one of their big announcement events.

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nokia is slowly killing their fans...after each device, I am less willing to spend money on their device....I am still faithful tho...but the n900 would be the LAST if maemo6 doesn't work with the n900.....

as for the ipad...I am not surprise at the price....fanboy will give up their first born just to own an apple device. I can see it...all the accessories and everything that people will spend on this....a soft sleeve...a HARD plastic to protect lcd...sad....AND what about AT&T complaining about iphone hogging their 3g network...this thing will drown it....destroy it...goodluck...at&t...

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I'm just amazed how bad the name iPad" is! Didn't they do their research :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsjU0K8QPhs

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does this at least have a swappable battery???

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The rumor mill before Apple product launches is insane and sets ridiculous expectations. When it is finally revealed and doesn't actually fly to the moon an back on a single charge it's a disappointment and the stocks go down.

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"We've always tried to be at the intersection of technology and liberal arts -- we want to make the best tech, but have them be intuitive. It's the combination of these two things that have let us make the iPad."

OMG, this guy... he is just amazing. He truly speaks to the geek, the art guy, the indie music fan, the mom with 7 kids, that hot red head that gives me lunch everyday... Nokia needs to hire him!

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PA Semiconductor's 1ghz A4 processor.

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I'd just like a fcking N900 that doesn't play the ringtone of an incoming call to everyone in my train carriage when I'm listening to music on wired headphones. Some of the most basic N900 functionality needs addressing before it can be considered "really good". :)

Email is still pretty sucky and quite horrible to use. RSS reader - LOL, same as it was on the 770! Ovi Store - geez, just as well there's only about 20 applications or it would be unusable with that UI. Ovi Maps - unusable.

The only decent shipping app on the N900 is the browser, and to those developers I take my hat off.

Sorry to harp on but Nokia seriously need to improve software quality fast if they're destined to be anything other than the provider of phones for the third world.

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I'm not impressed.

Apple makes a nice statement about scaling *up* UI development with this, and the importance of adding new content streams to their platform strategy is definitely key. But, this could have been done better if leverged more like an MS Courier (dual screens, sized like the MB Air) or in the software (the 10/GUI or Mag+ approaches here work).

It makes sense for where they are targeting - don't get me wrong. But better could and should have been done. Maemo is positioned really well in light of this - Ovi Store issues notwithstanding.

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I am impressed in one area. The UI is consistently good.

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I thought I remembered something of the sort! Thanks for finding it. :D

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I think it's a brilliant appliance.

It's obviously not targeted to homebrew/open source developers crowd.

With the amount of content and integration work it's getting, I'm definitely getting one.

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In this case the result is obnoxious. It will be a very ridicule object to carry around.

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With the size it has, I don't understand why it would be preferable to a netbook to begin with, nevermind the Apple vice-grip

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QFT, but thanks to the browser and apps like rdesktop a lot can be forgiven. Like say rss, I use google reader and it's easy enough to access by browser.

But still Nokia really shouldn't release half-baked phones anymore. It's great to get firmware updates, but they should only issue minor upgrades/fixes. Not gradually give us basic functionality that everyone has grown to expect to be avaivable by default. It's 2010. You don't have the luxury to do a half-assed job anymore.

But I'm sure Nokia has understood this now, the main fact verifying this is that Nokia is cutting 50% of new phones. So each phone should get a lot more love before release. Nokia would get so much love if M6 was upgradeable to the N900(even if it cost something), and the main thing being that M6 was finished and rock solid at addressing all basic needs.

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9.7" screen with 1024x768 resoluton.

Slate form factor is generally preferred for reading (Ebook, emagazine).

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If you consider this is just the start, what will next years device be like? Maybe it will have two screens. Maybe it will have new GUI improvements. And with hundreds more content providers clamouring to get on the iPad gravy train. It's a new product segment, and it's almost certain it will be successful. One thing is for sure, the new 2011 iPad OS will work fine on the 2010 model, something else Apple do right.

Really? I'm struggling to see how this impacts positively on Maemo right now, I truly am...

Apple have introduced a bunch of new virtual keyboards on the iPad while Maemo manages to redesign the Maemo virtual keyboard so that it is less usable than it was in 2005 - I bet all the Apple keyboards work very nicely too. It's annoying changes like that in Maemo that really show that Apple do care about what they develop (not saying there aren't people that care at Nokia/Maemo, but really some of the changes and features in Maemo5 are shockingly bad and shouldn't have gone out the front door).

While I may not be impressed by the iPad itself, I'm seriously impressed by the execution of Apple when it comes to developing their products which is something I fear Nokia will never achieve.

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i'll go with a pixel qi tablet
prefer a better screen, one that i can use outside
ipad is fancy, like most apple products, but i think even hp's slate is better deal

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Is A4 the CPU or the size? :D

*hugs the N810 nPad*

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I'm just trying to imagine how/where I'd use one of these. Too big to fit into my pocket, and if I have to pack it up to go with me anyway why not just pack up my laptop?

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Yeah, no doubt the iPad will do everything well that it promises straight from the bat. That's the difference between Apple and Nokia at the moment. You get a working whole, and will only be happy with updates as they bring something new, not fixes to problems.

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This video explains:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXHKCS28z1s

Just look at the poor motorcycler.

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Im sorry I disagree

I'm not missing apps, I can do most of what I want with the browser, dont get me wrong, I am looking forward to apps that will come as they will give me functionality that I hadn't thought of using. E-coach comes to mind, and stellarium is another, both very good, and Im sure there will be more wow moments.
Email is fine, OK, not very advanced, but I have all my mail accounts and they work - a decent search function would be useful, but basic funcionality is there.
I can keep up with all my social networking sites, and pixelpipe is just amazing, it makes everything so easy.
Yes Ovi store is bare, but so was the apple app store 3 months in, there needs to be a sense of perspective here.
My podcasts and RSS are all working fine for me, I finally have a device that has all my online stuff and is usable out on the move.
I agree that OVI maps isn't as good as google, but I have been using it in the UK fine, a bit more location aware stuff would be nice, but it is early days yet. As for the browser, I agree with you, it is my daily wow moment, it IS the killer app for the n900, it is just so good.

This is my first nokia, and after years of WM from Win CE on a phone upto win 6.5, I can say that for me - this is the best phone I have ever owned

I was looking at the ipad - its OK, but I couldn't take it out and do everything that I can do on my n900, and that is a testament to how good the n900 is, though I do like the screensize

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It's just a little too big for me - I'd have preferred something under 7" - but I could easily see it sitting in the lounge. Imagine a tie up with a sports broadcaster, you can be watching a game on the TV and have stats and other info streamed to your iPad. This kind of integration will happen, this will become a de facto "lounge" device to be used as an adjunct to watching the TV.

If I had an iPad it wouldn't leave the house - it will be interesting to see how many take the 3G option.

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http://www.tomshardware.com/news/app...ipod,9522.html

I expected better from Tom's Hardware... "Wow it has 1GHz processor. We don't know anything about it but we're sure it is veery powerful." :D

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How many of these comments are basically echoes of comments made when the iPod Touch was introduced?

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=9537

While it's not for me (although I might buy it just to get the data plan), this is why Apple changes markets and Nokia doesn't. Apple has realized that people want evolution as much as they want revolution. They sell "you can do all you used to do and more" not "you can do new things but some of the things you would expect to do don't work at the moment but we are working to fix some of them and other developers might fix some of them and besides we have a new OS coming out later this year although it may not run on the product you already own".

If Nokia doesn't get their usability act together, their hardware capabilities will not keep them on top.

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Stupid name!!! iPad OMG I can just imagine the 50+ people focus group who were hired to think of a name for this thing, they probably spent most of their time playing the Star Trek Online Beta for a crappy name like iPad to be decided on..

Plus,,

I looks horrible, the fake mock up images looked much better

Its a shame because I was going to get this, but not anymore :(

Tut Tut apple Tut Tut :(

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It somewhat surprises me that Apple didn't learn from Microsoft's mistakes. But it will sell well, because it has an apple printed on it.

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I'm not complaining about missing apps, although more would be nice but that's not entirely Nokias fault.

What I am frustrated by is the out of the box experience - email could/should be better by now, RSS is a very useful app but the out of the box version hasn't been updated since it was first released in 2005. I'm frustrated because I just can't see Apple doing to it's customers what Nokia does to us.

You buy an Apple device and, out of the box it will work and it will work very well. N900? Yeah, it works, kinda. If you're lucky you might be able to download a third party app to replace the built-in apps, as they're a bit rubbish and Nokia hasn't had the time or resources to update them. Maybe when you buy the next device they'll have been updated. Or maybe not.

If Nokia want to compete they really need to start thinking more about delivering a top notch end-product rather than this progressively improving project which is becoming an expensive past time for many of us.

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@DaveP1: Usability and CONTENTS!

Unfortunately, to become successful in today's market it's not enough just to have advanced tech spec and being completely open...

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announcement was mostly boring.

no flash + multitasking? are you serious?!?!?!? fcking unblieveable.....

well, some are probably already used to the fact that they cant.see flash content at all..... i can't understand because I have had flash @ web since OS2007......

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From what I've read, there's not much difference between this and a Touch.

Is it actually just a grown up touch with bigger screen, faster CPu, more ram and a keyboard dock?

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Too bad. You dont have to worry, you can always buy the latest single tasking wonder - iPad. Nokia does not need your help to stay relevant. Loving my n900 even more.

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I want Nokia to improve. I'm concerned that they won't make it. You should be too. You might be loving your N900, and I like mine too, but the N900, Nokia and Maemo is not competing with the interconnected-ness and the undeniable quality of the competition.