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The reason it doesn't work is because the desktop file is used to launch the application. If you rename/move it, then the desktop file will not be found.

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how is nokia gonna implement folders on pr1.2? any words?

this app can give them a good idea!

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marxian, I have a suggestion:

Can you add a "back" arrow button at the top left? And align the folder title to the right?

Once pressing back, it will close the folder app.
I know you can just swipe the app away, but a button like this makes also sense if you ask me

Edit:
Added a quick mockup to show you what I mean

Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 

Thats what I was getting at earlier, but you explained it much better. I would like this very much also

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hmm :) funny, but i do not need to.

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The feature is already done, has been for a while already according to Konttori's blog. Unfortunately no idea how it has been implemented though. Maybe one of the "guys from Oulu" reads this forum and wants to elaborate :-).

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This is the icon i am using for games.

Hope you like it

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/1917/gameswr.png

I like that arrow at the top left, sounds like a good idea

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Awww, this is disappointing. And I was under the impression in the first version it didn't work like this. Can't you implement it so that meefolders uses it's own .desktop files (perhaps copied) so that we're free to rename the ones we don't want in the main screen after putting them in folders? It would make the main app screen SO much tidier :)

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I can show how it's look? Is that bad, if i show it?

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No, it's good ;)

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Hi,
Can you share how you execute the aplications? I'm getting problems using the qprocess... :s can you share this little piece of code? thanks

Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 

I'll do it for the next update. :)

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I don't use QProcess for this. I just call Qt.openUrlExternally(<path/to/desktop/file>) from QML. This is the same as using QDesktopServices::openUrl(QUrl(<path/to/desktop/file>)). I would only use QProcess if I needed more control.

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Hah. Yeah, but can i get fired or something like that. Maybe you guys must wait. PR1.2 is here soon.

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Nokia's favourite word. Will it be here before Belle?

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Thanks :)

But per example for Maps applications you get "/usr/bin/invoker --type=e /usr/bin/maps -u %U" in exec parameter. Do you use all the string in Qt.openUrlExternally? Like this Qt.openUrlExternally("/usr/bin/invoker --type=e /usr/bin/maps -u %U") ?

I'm asking because i can't try it right now :p

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It is the .desktop file itself that I pass to Qt.openUrlExternally(), not the value of the Exec key, so for Maps it would be

This ensures that the application is launched in exactly the same way as if the user clicked the desktop icon.

Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 

Thanks :) but i still need to try use it with QProcess because i need to have some control over the apps :s

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If you start a thread in the Development section explaining what you are trying to do, I should be able to help. :)

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In general if you need to find what .desktop file corresponds to an icon and it's not immediately obvious from the .desktop file name, try the following from within /usr/share/applications or /home/user/.local/share/applications:

Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 

MeeFolders 0.0.3 now available.

Changelog:

* Added back button to folders.
* Desktop files are now copied to, and launched from, /home/user/MyDocs/MeeFolders/desktop/

You can now rename desktop files without any problems. Existing folders will be removed on installation.

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/138...9155140.th.png

Debian package is available from http://ubuntuone.com/4RqYPrshY12lpOg3KcjhQP

Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 

Also, just figured this one out, if you want to deactivate an icon in the main app screen but without deactivating the application (so MeeFolders can still call it from within its own folder app and icon, for example), you can add the following line to its .desktop

EDIT. Marxian posted the latest version that enables you to rename .desktop files to disable the icon. But I'd consider adding this line to the .desktop file better practice than renaming it (as I had earlier suggested), because renaming the .desktop file could have unexpected consequences with other apps or with the system.

EDIT2: Doing it this way also has the advantage that the app icon will still be available inside Meefolders when you select a folder to add icons to it; otherwise every time Marxian releases an update you'd have to go through the tedious process of naming the .desktop files back again for them to show up in Meefolders when you recreate your folder structure, and then renaming them a second time to stop them showing up in your main app screen again.

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Using the NotShowIn key was my intended method of hiding desktop files, for the reasons you explain. Also, having a copy of the desktop file means that any changes to the original file (say, from an application update) will not be reflected.

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Hehe :D i agree. I remember pr1.3 on the n900.

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I wonder perhaps you should go back to assuming that method on the part of users? The issue of app updates is a serious enough one it seems to me. Also app updates may in itself be an issue if the system can't find the .desktop file, so encouraging people to rename them (it now seems to me) is ill-advised.

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You could show it so that the dev can try to get as close a solution as possible till pr 1.2 is released.

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PS. I don't think it's necessarily a bad idea to leave out some features (such as hiding apps on the main app screen) if these are hard to implement using automatic methods but straightforward with manual ones, and encouraging users to fiddle around with their phones themselves to get this feature working. It's how we'll help the community grow and prosper, by encouraging people to experiment and get comfortable with the command line. It's how I got into this whole community; I was a total newbie to linux when I first got my N900, but this community changed that.

Also, a feature request for Meefolders for a future update: listing the apps in the add icon screen alphabetically by their displayed name. Right now they appear to be in a more or less random order and it can be hard to find the one you're looking for.

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I think Marxian's done a great job, and if it happens to be different from what will be implemented in 1.2, that's no bad thing. Perhaps it will even be better? But that shouldn't stop him looking, of course, if he wants to (although I think Nokia would have to approve that as it's their intellectual property).

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I'm just curious... why are you using a Folder in MyDocs?

Your application will stop working as soon as the N9 is in the USB Massstorage mode.

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Thanks for the new version!!

Is there a "workaround" to keep the folders when installing the new version?
Or do I really need to add ALL my apps in new folders again? :(

Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 

I just used it so it would be possible to manage the files when in mass storage mode.

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Each update so far has required a clean database. Once things are settled, it won't be necessary.

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Heh, I messed up here, I think because I had a duplicate icon and it was the duplicate that 'stayed behind' when I added NotShowIn=X-MeeGo; to the .desktop file.

So in its current version adding the NotShowIn key to a .desktop file WILL stop Meefolders from showing that icon in its icon view. So if Marxian does decide to assume that users will add that key rather than rename the .desktop file, he'll have to add the capability for Meefolders to show icons whose .desktop files have that line. However this means that other icons the user will no be familiar with will also show up (there are a ton in /usr/share/applications with that line) which could be confusing, and/or messy. Now not sure what the best solution is here.

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I imagine the Nokia solution is to enable new folders to be created directly from the application list, application icons can then be dragged onto the folder icon to assign the application to that folder. Nobody else can implement that kind of functionality, because Swipe UX is closed.

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Which icon view are you referring to? If you mean only the grid that is shown when you want to add an application to a folder, then that can easily be solved.

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I have found some bugs with the latest version:

Some icons are not shown. E.g. 5inarow from Nokia store has no icon, just the caption.

Umlauts don't work. E.g., if you create a folder "Büro", you'll get a weird question mark character instead of the ü.

Edit: that folder wouldn't open even.

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If that is Nokia's solution, I can already think of an advantage of Meefolders: it will allow multiple icons in different folders; Nokia's solution won't.

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Yes, that's the one I mean. It looks like adding the line NotShowIn=X-MeeGo; to a .desktop file prevents its icon showing up in that grid.

Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 

so far so good
just wait a new version to hide the icon in default app menu, it is inconvenience to add a line to every desktop file.

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@marxian: one or two widgets are now starting to show up as icons/apps. For example there is the widget that shows the device's IP address, and there is a hack that makes the calendar app show the current day of the month instead of "21" all the time. Does/will Meefolders support these kinds of dynamically updated icons?