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77h 2010-02-05 12:55

Re: What would you realistically like to see in the N920?
 
base model with great price and optional add ons (like in the car industry but with good pricing)

want a better camera.. -> you can have a 8mp with amazing hd vid functionality

optional with and without keyboard


want a compass -> you can have it for USD 14

etc pp...

NokiaRocks 2010-02-05 12:56

Re: What would you realistically like to see in the N920?
 
SD instead of micro SD ? Why ? Want an even bigger device ?

soeiro 2010-02-05 13:03

Re: What would you realistically like to see in the N920?
 
- Higher capacity battery
- Stretch the real screen to cover all face of the phone (larger screen keeping the same size of the phone)
- Magnetometer (digital compass)
- Thermometer (temperature)
- Altimeter (hight)
- Use the OneNAND only for booting and recovery, give us a a full 32GB rootfs
- 1GB RAM + more NAND
- Wifi N
- Make the microUSB port more robust (so that it is firmly fixed)
- Place another USB controller, this one not chargeable, but supporting host mode
- Better front face camera: with a clear image, at least
- SDXC card (instead of the micro SD), on the outside
- Don't place the sim card below the battery
- Better GPS (or at least, better GPS software)
- A thinner version, re-engineering the components layout
- A real camera flash, besides the led flash

TA-t3 2010-02-05 13:26

Re: What would you realistically like to see in the N920?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NokiaRocks (Post 511787)
SD instead of micro SD ? Why ? Want an even bigger device ?

There are cameras out there so small they're nearly credit-card sized, and they _still_ manage to use a full-size, proper, external SD slot. So I don't buy into that.
The real point is that an internal micro-SD is useless for easy access to cards from other devices, even if you went ahead and replaced every card of those devices with micro-cards in adapters. An internal microSD card is what's used for a traditional phone with little or no internal storage ("memory" to some), as a permant, never-removed storage extension. The N900, with its 32GB built-in storage, hardly needs that.

The N900 is a computer, a media central, a lot of things. An external SD slot makes it possible to easily insert cards from my other devices: Cameras, Zoom H4 4-track recorder, PDAs, Video, soon an R16 recorder, and more.

Get rid of that internal microSD, it's not very useful. Install something useful instead: full-size, external SD slot (and make it SDXC compatible when you're at it, as suggested by soeiro).

77h 2010-02-05 13:49

Re: What would you realistically like to see in the N920?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TA-t3 (Post 511828)
There are cameras out there so smal they're nearly credit-card sized, and they _still_ manage to use a full-size, proper, external SD slot. So I don't buy into that.
The real point is that an internal micro-SD is useless for easy access to cards from other devices, even if you went ahead and replaced every card of those devices with micro-cards in adapters. An internal microSD card is what's used for a traditional phone with little or no internal storage ("memory" to some), as a permant, never-removed storage extension. The N900, with its 32GB built-in storage, hardly needs that.

The N900 is a computer, a media central, a lot of things. An external SD slot makes it possible to easily insert cards from my other devices: Cameras, Zoom H4 4-track recorder, PDAs, Video, soon an R16 recorder, and more.

Get rid of that internal microSD, it's not very useful. Install something useful instead: full-size, external SD slot (and make it SDXC compatible when you're at it, as suggested by soeiro).

That might help. I once received one as a advertising gift from intel and I have it on my key ring. since micro sd's now can store up to 32 gig it is an amzing litte thing :)

77h 2010-02-05 13:53

Re: What would you realistically like to see in the N920?
 
sorry did not read your post properly.. my proposed solution only helps re pc but not with the other devices:

Cameras, Zoom H4 4-track recorder, PDAs, Video, soon an R16 recorder, and more.

TA-t3 2010-02-05 13:55

Re: What would you realistically like to see in the N920?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by soeiro (Post 511799)
- Place another USB controller, this one not chargeable, but supporting host mode

Part cause of the micro-USB fiasco is that, funnily enough, you can't do that. Or at least not if you want OTG mode too.

It's all laid out in this PDF from the USB consortium.

Quote:
3.1.1 OTG devices
An OTG device is required to have one, and only one USB connector[...]
/Quote

So, if you have a functioning OTG-capable USB port you're not allowed to add a second one (for e.g. charging).

It's better to just get rid of the micro-USB charging mode altogether, it was a stupid idea to start with. Particularly as Nokia was one of the few vendors that used to have a functioning charging plug (unlike S-E and most other phone / PDA vendors out there).

Flandry 2010-02-05 14:01

Re: What would you realistically like to see in the N920?
 
Why stop at SD? My Zaurus has both an SD and a CF slot. Let's do that!

I'm being silly. I hope it's clear the line between reality and fantasy was somewhere over there. ;)

It would be nice to have some form of removable storage (and by removable i mean without opening up the phone). I'm not sure i'd want to go back to SD now that i have microSD, but i guess there are always adapters. I'd rather have USB host with the socket well-placed to not be in the way while using the device; i could just get an adapter and use USB keys for removable storage like i do for other computers.

penguinbait 2010-02-05 14:05

Re: What would you realistically like to see in the N920?
 
here we go again.

1024x600
bigger screen
512mb ram

carrier discounts in USA / Canada

TA-t3 2010-02-05 14:11

Re: What would you realistically like to see in the N920?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zwer (Post 511774)
That ain't gonna happen if they want to sell their devices in Europe.

The micro-USB 'common charger' solution isn't mandatory, only advisable. Not that I care that much, if Nokia could a) make it more robust, b) make it charge with the 1.2A the charger can do (which it definitely doesn't, it takes much longer to charge than my N800 ever did), and c) completely ignore the USB consortium document I quoted, and just install a normal, additional USB port. (more about that later)

Quote:

External, yes. But I see no reason not to keep the micro SDHC slot - it saves a huge amount space and works just like its big-format brother. Granted, you can cram more things on a full-sized SD, but since N900 does not support SDIO (or at least it seems that way), there is really no advantage.
I don't really see what SDIO has got to do with it, I don't use SDIO on anything anymore (I used to, with a wi-fi card on my PDA - but there are hardly any real SDIO devices out there.) The point for me is that my _other_ devices use large-capacity, full-size SD cards.

However, the realistic solution will probably have to be the second USB port, as mentioned above. Because, as Flandry says:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flandry
It would be nice to have some form of removable storage (and by removable i mean without opening up the phone). I'm not sure i'd want to go back to SD now that i have microSD, but i guess there are always adapters. I'd rather have USB host with the socket well-placed to not be in the way while using the device; i could just get an adapter and use USB keys for removable storage like i do for other computers.

(I added the bold)
Yes, I could definitely live with that, as I got a nice, very small adapter with a Lexar card I bought. It transforms any full-size SDHC card to a little USB key. I could grab a card from my 4-track recorder, or from a camera, and then just plug it into the USB connector on the 920, if it had one.


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