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pwngu!n 2009-12-24 19:23

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by N900_NEWBIE (Post 440654)
Hi

I get Rdesktop cannot work properly because there is some problem with the connection network

I am confused because I have 2 computers on and the IP on them is the same. So how would Rdesktop know where which one to connect :confused:

Err, you can't have two computers with the same IP, unless you're talking about NAT which I seriously doubt.

I take it you are connected to your WIFI at home, and not trying to remote desktop over the internet/3G connection?

Check the IP of your PC, lets say as an example it is: 192.168.1.10
From a terminal on your phone, type: "ping 192.168.1.10". If you get a response then you know you at least have connectivity.
You can get the IP of your phone too, by typing: "/sbin/ifconfig wlan0".

But since the app is installed, you should probably look for help to this problem elsewhere. Good luck.

N900_NEWBIE 2009-12-24 19:24

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Thanks...to be on the same page, I get my IP by doing an IPCONFIG...there is IP address, subnet mast and a default gateway. I used IP address...something like 192.123.1.12, am I doing it right?

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkq (Post 440672)
Try turning off the computer that you don't want to connect to?

It's probably best if you make sure each computer has its own IP address, though.

-jkq


N900_NEWBIE 2009-12-24 19:28

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Hello-

My computer is over the WLAN. And I am trying to do a RDP by my phone which is on T-Mobile 3G (USA)

When I did a ping from the phone it says "Permission Denied (Are you root?) "




Quote:

Originally Posted by pwngu!n (Post 440683)
Err, you can't have two computers with the same IP, unless you're talking about NAT which I seriously doubt.

I take it you are connected to your WIFI at home, and not trying to remote desktop over the internet/3G connection?

Check the IP of your PC, lets say as an example it is: 192.168.1.10
From a terminal on your phone, type: "ping 192.168.1.10". If you get a response then you know you at least have connectivity.
You can get the IP of your phone too, by typing: "/sbin/ifconfig wlan0".

But since the app is installed, you should probably look for help to this problem elsewhere. Good luck.


pwngu!n 2009-12-24 19:38

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Then type "root" to get root privileges (similar to Windows Administrator account) and then try ping it.

N900_NEWBIE 2009-12-24 19:58

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pwngu!n (Post 440695)
Then type "root" to get root privileges (similar to Windows Administrator account) and then try ping it.

What will I see if ping was succesful? I just see it says PING 192.168.1.12 (192.168.1.12) : 56 data bytes

pwngu!n 2009-12-24 20:07

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
You will know because you will see response times (in miliseconds). If you get a network error or no reply then it is likely not connectable.

What is the IP of your phone? You get it by typing: "/sbin/ifconfig wlan0".

Your PC and phone should be similar, with just a difference in the last octet.

example:
PC - 192.168.1.12
N900 - 192.168.1.13

You should be able to ping your N900 from your PC also. This isn't really the forum to discuss this though, as it's a general networking problem so you would probably be better off asking on a Windows forum.

asidana 2009-12-24 20:16

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by N900_NEWBIE (Post 440687)
Hello-

My computer is over the WLAN. And I am trying to do a RDP by my phone which is on T-Mobile 3G (USA)

When I did a ping from the phone it says "Permission Denied (Are you root?) "

1 - set a static ip to your pc in your LAN See here

2 - Disable firewall on pc or allow remote desktop port 3389 See here

3 - Set password to your aco**** on your pc and make it member of Administrator See here

4- Go to your router's management page and forward remote desktop port to your computer's new static ip See here

5 - Enambe remote desktop on your pc See here

6 - Start Rdesktop 1.7 package on your N900 and type your computers internet ip you can get it from a site like whatismyip.org

For easy use see if your router supports http://www.dyndns.com/ . If it does just open a free account and you won't need to remember your pc's ip all the time

N900_NEWBIE 2009-12-25 01:26

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Thanks for the very detailed instructions.

@ All, I resolved this issue by changing a router firewall setting.

@ pwngu!n- Ping was being blocked by another routing setting :)

Special thanks to pwngu!n, jkq, and asidana. I was going to retrun this phone if it was not for y'all helping me.

I had a BB 9700 before this and the Remote desktop on this is faser compared to that. And the graphics !!! :eek: I am in love with this baby!


Quote:

Originally Posted by asidana (Post 440721)
1 - set a static ip to your pc in your LAN See here

2 - Disable firewall on pc or allow remote desktop port 3389 See here

3 - Set password to your aco**** on your pc and make it member of Administrator See here

4- Go to your router's management page and forward remote desktop port to your computer's new static ip See here

5 - Enambe remote desktop on your pc See here

6 - Start Rdesktop 1.7 package on your N900 and type your computers internet ip you can get it from a site like whatismyip.org

For easy use see if your router supports http://www.dyndns.com/ . If it does just open a free account and you won't need to remember your pc's ip all the time


bunion 2009-12-26 20:25

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Hi, I have been through the whole thread, could someone please post simple instructions on how to enable or install remote desktop on my N900?

I don't mind remote desktop or VNC, whichever is easiest!

Thanks if you can help.

asidana 2009-12-26 20:34

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
do you want to connect from n900 to a windows pc? add extras-devel and find rdesktop

if you want to connect to your n900 from a pc to via vnc add extras-devel and find rdesktop

http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-devel

The Quote Train 2009-12-27 05:19

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Newb here, but quick learner ;)

How close off are we to seeing rDesktop in the extras repository?

bunion 2009-12-27 20:43

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by asidana (Post 442358)
do you want to connect from n900 to a windows pc? add extras-devel and find rdesktop

if you want to connect to your n900 from a pc to via vnc add extras-devel and find rdesktop

http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-devel


Thanks. I have followed the instructions but it stalls once ive added it with the information. It says 'checking for updates, please wait' and gives me the stop option which I have to use because nothing happens.

salle74 2010-01-03 14:08

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
I have tested the rdesktop 1.7 and it works great but when i change the default port number on rdp (win7) it doesent work at all? How come?

2disbetter 2010-01-08 07:49

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
(Just a shot in the dark here) Anyone know why on a celluar connection my vnc session gets dropped after being connected only for a few seconds, but on wi-fi it could last for ever?

One of the problems I suspect is I currently have RealVNC set to prefer on for encryption, and I think it might help to be prefer off. One other issue I'm having is if the internet connection is not active for 5 minutes the router kills the connection. Since no one is at the server to make the connection active again, that is another problem (which I will remedy by telling the router to keep the connection live, in the future this wont be neccessary as the box will be made to download legit torrents, etc., and thus will always use the internet.)

Anybody more experienced at this than me have any suggestions?

2d

joksanen 2010-01-08 21:54

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
I have made a couple of youtube videos, where you can see these remote desktop applications in action:

- rdesktop v.1.7-maemo1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COg-abNoVEA

- VNC viewer v.0.6.3-fremantle2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BvHX51mrok

Brank 2010-01-10 21:03

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
rdesktop works great! Thank you so much!

bachagabriel 2010-01-10 23:35

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
can i use rdesktop on windows 7 home premium?

Brank 2010-01-11 07:09

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
rdesktop works great for me when connecting within lan (from 192.168.0.11 to 192.168.0.10), but when I try to connect with lets say gprs to my WAN IP, it won't work and I kinda guess it shouldn't work either to keep things safe.
So my question is, how do I connect to my PC that's behind nat from outside my lan?

edit: I booted my box and now it works for some reason. Great :)

bachagabriel 2010-01-11 14:39

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bachagabriel (Post 463044)
can i use rdesktop on windows 7 home premium?

And also, do I have to set up something on the PC before connecting the phone to it or just connect to the local IP?

joksanen 2010-01-11 23:09

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bachagabriel
can i use rdesktop on windows 7 home premium?

As far as I know, only the Windows 7 Professional and the Ultimate version can act as an RDP server.

Quote:

And also, do I have to set up something on the PC before connecting the phone to it or just connect to the local IP?
Check that you have enabled the remote desktop in "System properties -> Remote -> Remote desktop", and that the remote user's account is in "Remote desktop Users". Windows firewall rules are automatically created, but if you have a third party firewall (software and/or hardware), you'll need to verify that the firewall rules are set to allow the remote desktop connection.

If you want to connect over the Internet, you'll need to know your WAN IP address (if you don't have a static IP, then a dyndns type service is recommended). If you are behind a NAT router, you will also need to configure port forwarding rule on your router (default RDP port is TCP 3389).

It's of course also possible to use the remote desktop through a VPN tunnel.

bachagabriel 2010-01-11 23:35

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
can you tell me how to do that?

MontyBravo 2010-01-15 00:44

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Just tried it, comes up with "Rdesktop cannot work property as there is a problem with the network"

:(

Anyone had this,

MB

stoettn 2010-01-15 09:16

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Hi all

I can't find RDESKTOP in my programm catalog.

Is there a repository i have to add? In my N900 are 4 listed:
-Nokia Applications
-Nokia Systemspftware update
-Ovi
-maemo.org


OR is rdesktop only manual insallable with "dpkg -i rdesktop_1.7-maemo1_armel.deb"?

Thanks all

adlayingemar 2010-01-15 09:29

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stoettn (Post 473557)
Hi all

I can't find RDESKTOP in my programm catalog.

Is there a repository i have to add? In my N900 are 4 listed:
-Nokia Applications
-Nokia Systemspftware update
-Ovi
-maemo.org


OR is rdesktop only manual insallable with "dpkg -i rdesktop_1.7-maemo1_armel.deb"?

Thanks all

i install it with "dpkg -i rdesktop_1.7-maemo1_armel.deb" and it work...

MontyBravo 2010-01-15 12:01

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
For me it just says network connection not available when i try to run it. :(

stoettn 2010-01-15 12:25

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
I dont get root rights to install rdesktop
i have version 2.2009.51-1 installed.

I tryed : root (root: not found), su (must be suid to work properly)

saintek 2010-01-16 17:06

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
exuse me pls..i realy dont understend much about this remote desktop...i mean...with this kind of program i can be actulaily away from my home...and i can enter to my COmputer??? if of course is power On...pls explain me ???

or i can do this only in my house with wifi and my pc on???

logantn 2010-01-16 19:46

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintek (Post 476491)
exuse me pls..i realy dont understend much about this remote desktop...i mean...with this kind of program i can be actulaily away from my home...and i can enter to my COmputer??? if of course is power On...pls explain me ???

or i can do this only in my house with wifi and my pc on???

Using 3G or Wifi, you can access your home computer (as long as it's on and connected to the internet) from anywhere.

*Sonic* 2010-01-16 20:06

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
I tried this today and I must say it is very very fast accessing our windows 2008 server over my wireless :)

I got it from extras-devel and now have it as a shortcut on the desktop

ewo 2010-01-17 13:15

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Trying to get rdesktop-cli working here as rdesktop 1.7 has those port issues.

using the "rdesktop-cli -f -u xxx -p xxx 123.123.123.123:12345" command line i get the following message:

WARNING: Remote desktop does not support colour depth 16; falling back to 24
WARNING: Remote desktop changed from 800x480 to 1920x1200.
disconnect: Unknown reason. Error code: 768


The good thing is that rdesktop obviously connects to my PC because it correctly detects the screen resolution. I tried changing my screen resolution to 800x600 and 1024x768 and tried with both available color depths, which are 16 and 32 (24 not available for some reason). Didnt help. Also tried googling for that error code, but found nothing.

I'm wondering if my Vista settings are somehow bad. Havent used remote desktop before so what I did was I created an invitation file and opened it in notepad. Found the ip:port there. Maybe I'm supposed to start the rdp server on vista some other way?

Any help appreciated.


edit: also tried sending invitation ticket via email. The ticket looks almost identical to the file invitation, but is missing my internet IP and only showing a local IP. Ok so I tried to use rdesktop over WLAN, and it does connect, but gives the same error code 768.

This whole invitation stuff seems really unnecessary and I should probably be reading some Vista forums on how to properly set up the RDP server, but it sounds like other people on here are getting their rdesktop to run without the kinda trouble im having...

edit2: I'm using Vista Home Premium which apparently only has "Windows Remote Assistance" instead of remote desktop (what ever the big difference might be).

Is it even possible to use rdesktop with a Vista Home Premium machine or am I just wasting time here?

stoettn 2010-01-18 10:52

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Hello,
I install now version 1.6! it works! But I can only start it from a shell!

Is there a GUI available? juaalto posts a picture with GUI
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=33770&page=4

loscertales 2010-01-18 15:46

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Hi there
I just got a N900 and I'd need to run a remote desktop-like program to acces my PC (Windows Vista) from the N900. I have no idea of porgramming. Could anyone tell me what to do? I guess I should download a file and then install it, but agagin, I have never done it before. Thanks in advance,
L

arpwatch 2010-01-18 16:02

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by loscertales (Post 480115)
Hi there
I just got a N900 and I'd need to run a remote desktop-like program to acces my PC (Windows Vista) from the N900. I have no idea of porgramming. Could anyone tell me what to do? I guess I should download a file and then install it, but agagin, I have never done it before. Thanks in advance,
L


rdesktop is in extras-development and I should say *DANGER WILL ROBINSON, DANGER* before you go installing things from extras-devel. You install applications from there at your own risk. Also I have no idea that it works with Vista. I've only used it with XP SP3.

That said, I've used rdesktop located there and it worked pretty well aside from the occasional mysterious disconnects. Again, if it screws something up don't go blaming the rdesktop guys, me, your Aunt Agatha, etc.

SubCore 2010-01-18 17:08

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ewo (Post 477991)
edit2: I'm using Vista Home Premium which apparently only has "Windows Remote Assistance" instead of remote desktop (what ever the big difference might be).

Is it even possible to use rdesktop with a Vista Home Premium machine or am I just wasting time here?

If Home Premium only has remote assistance available, and not remote desktop, it won't work.
those are different applications requiring different clients to connect, so you're out of luck, i'm afraid.

you can however install a VNC server on your Vista Home Premium box and use vncviewer on the tablet to connect.

slewis1972 2010-01-18 21:40

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Can anyone tell me, does the remote desktop client auto resize the screen or is it a case of left/right up/down scrolling to get round the desktop you have connected to?

Thanks

Scott

timwatt 2010-01-18 21:44

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
VNC on the n900 = actual desktop and scroll around
RDP on the n900 = 800 x 480

loscertales 2010-01-19 07:56

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Please forgive me but you said that "rdesktop is in extras-development ", where is that extras-development place? Thanks again,
L

loscertales 2010-01-19 09:08

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
I downloaded rdesktop_1.7-maemo1_armel from the garage page. If I use X terminal to install it, when I type "dpkg _i" the system answers "requested operation requires superuser privilege". Does anyone know how to get around this??
Thanks,
L

juaalto 2010-01-19 09:30

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by loscertales (Post 481521)
I downloaded rdesktop_1.7-maemo1_armel from the garage page. If I use X terminal to install it, when I type "dpkg _i" the system answers "requested operation requires superuser privilege". Does anyone know how to get around this??
Thanks,
L

Install 'rootsh' package using App Manager. In X Terminal enter 'sudo gainroot' before entering other commands.

SubCore 2010-01-19 10:02

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by loscertales (Post 481427)
Please forgive me but you said that "rdesktop is in extras-development ", where is that extras-development place? Thanks again,
L

see here: http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras

i believe it would be better if you enabled the extras-devel repository (see the link to the wiki for instructions how to do that), installed rdesktop, and disabled it again.
installing by hand with dpkg isn't recommended for beginners, and if rdesktop has some dependencies, it won't work anyways.

be aware that software from extras-devel usually is not end-user friendly and possibly dangerous. i'm not saying anything will happen, i just want you to know the risk.


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