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d-iivil 2010-01-22 11:26

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Hi there,

does rdesktop support file transfer from server to client? If it does, how? I cannot find anything related on browsing remote and local folders within the rdesktop.

Thanks.

Pigro 2010-01-22 12:22

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
on M$ RDP client, basic file transfer can be achieved by enabling 'local devices' in the 'resource sharing' tab of the RDP connection. The local drives (from your RDP client machine) are then exposed as mapped drives on the target machine.

I therefore assumed that checking one or more of the "Disk Sharing" check boxes on the front end connection details screen for rDesktop would work the same way ... but I just tried it & it didn't - checing myDocs and/or Mem Card's seemed to have no effect on the target PC. Not sure if that's a bug or if I'm just misunderstanding the purpose of those check boxes. I'd be interested to know the answer either way ...

nb - Only contemplate this method (even if it works) if you trust the target system to be secure and virus free; it potentially exposes your n900 security-wise.

d-iivil 2010-01-22 12:29

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pigro (Post 488521)
I therefore assumed that checking one or more of the "Disk Sharing" check boxes on the front end connection details screen for rDesktop would work the same way ... but I just tried it & it didn't - checing myDocs and/or Mem Card's seemed to have no effect on the target PC. Not sure if that's a bug or if I'm just misunderstanding the purpose of those check boxes. I'd be interested to know the answer either way ...

Yeah, that's what I assumed also, but checking those boxes didn't have any effect anywhere.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pigro (Post 488521)
nb - Only contemplate this method (even if it works) if you trust the target system to be secure and virus free; it potentially exposes your n900 security-wise.

I do trust my own home & work computer and sometimes I need to take remotely control of those machines and also transfer some data over the air.

Pigro 2010-01-22 12:32

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
I suppose you could run a basic ftp server on your target as a work around?

d-iivil 2010-01-22 12:35

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pigro (Post 488531)
I suppose you could run a basic ftp server on your target as a work around?

Actually that's what I'm doing right now, but it would be one hassle less if I wouldn't have to run separe programs for file transfering & remote desktoping. FTP also has it's own limitations since it would be stupid and impossible to share the WHOLE filesystem of server machine for a FTP-account.

Pigro 2010-01-22 12:38

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
ok, I'm a total noob both here & wth n900, so I'm out of ideas :-) I'm sure someone will be able to explain/fix the disk sharing stuff as I can't think of any other purpose for that ... good luck!

bulelet 2010-01-22 12:56

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
ok.. i opened the link to the vnc viewer found in the first page of this thread. i just want to ask how do you install this? which file do you download? im very new to this kind of things but very interested. people help me out pleeease!!

mcdull 2010-01-23 09:19

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ewo (Post 477991)
Trying to get rdesktop-cli working here as rdesktop 1.7 has those port issues.

using the "rdesktop-cli -f -u xxx -p xxx 123.123.123.123:12345" command line i get the following message:

WARNING: Remote desktop does not support colour depth 16; falling back to 24
WARNING: Remote desktop changed from 800x480 to 1920x1200.
disconnect: Unknown reason. Error code: 768

I also have to uninstall 1.7 and install 1.6 because I'm not using the default rdp port. I didn't have any problem but I'm running it on a XP Pro.

anyone know how to set up a shortcut on N900's desktop so I don't need to type the whole thing everytime in xterminal?
Wondering if there will be a new version or rdesktop that will support using a custom port?

drukane 2010-01-23 11:51

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
i need help please i havent got a clue what i am doing. got as far as vnc asking for my vnc server dont know where to get that from



Quote:

Originally Posted by matikjn (Post 362388)
You can use VNC viewer, it's in extras-testing at the moment.

Project page: https://garage.maemo.org/projects/vncviewer/


casper27 2010-01-23 12:01

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drukane (Post 490349)
i need help please i havent got a clue what i am doing. got as far as vnc asking for my vnc server dont know where to get that from

Please search before asking questions

IcyAirs 2010-01-23 12:09

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mcdull (Post 490186)
I also have to uninstall 1.7 and install 1.6 because I'm not using the default rdp port. I didn't have any problem but I'm running it on a XP Pro.

anyone know how to set up a shortcut on N900's desktop so I don't need to type the whole thing everytime in xterminal?
Wondering if there will be a new version or rdesktop that will support using a custom port?

In this thread, 2 pages ago...: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=134

Quote:

Originally Posted by D-Iivil (Post 488436)
Hi there,

does rdesktop support file transfer from server to client? If it does, how? I cannot find anything related on browsing remote and local folders within the rdesktop.

Thanks.

Also in that same thread, I mention the cli command necessary to add your N900 MyDocs as a shared folder to your windows My Computer. The transfer may seem really slow and freeze up the rdp client screen for the time necessary for the transfer, but it works (if the RDP connection doesn't break, of course). I've transfered a gig of music from my remote computer this way, had to just set my N900 down somewhere for a looooong time....


It would be best if someone would go and fix all that up for the rdesktop package, though *sigh*

mcdull 2010-01-24 14:00

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IcyAirs (Post 490366)
In this thread, 2 pages ago...: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=134



Also in that same thread, I mention the cli command necessary to add your N900 MyDocs as a shared folder to your windows My Computer. The transfer may seem really slow and freeze up the rdp client screen for the time necessary for the transfer, but it works (if the RDP connection doesn't break, of course). I've transfered a gig of music from my remote computer this way, had to just set my N900 down somewhere for a looooong time....


It would be best if someone would go and fix all that up for the rdesktop package, though *sigh*

Great, thanks, didn't notice your earlier post :p

mcdull 2010-01-24 18:39

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
In using 1.6, how do I switch back to phone's desktop without disconnecting (or press the power key and End current task)?

lendurhenry 2010-01-25 16:11

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
How to get rid of this icon-button in right lover corner that shows and hides system information bar? Maemo browser can hide it automatically while fullscreen. It covers some icons in taskbar notification area.

mcdull 2010-01-25 16:27

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lendurhenry (Post 493809)
How to get rid of this icon-button in right lover corner that shows and hides system information bar? Maemo browser can hide it automatically while fullscreen. It covers some icons in taskbar notification area.

Actually, I want it the other way.
Using 1.6, I don't see the icon, as a result, I can't show the system bar and can't switch back to phone's desktop without disconnecting first or kill that rdesktop process.

lendurhenry 2010-01-25 16:37

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Camkeyd or ctrl+backspace does not help?
What bad should I expect if i downgrade my rdesktop to 1.6? Does it work at all in N900?

mcdull 2010-01-25 17:05

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lendurhenry (Post 493864)
Camkeyd or ctrl+backspace does not help?
What bad should I expect if i downgrade my rdesktop to 1.6? Does it work at all in N900?

I didn't mention I'm running it in fullscreen mode, so there is no system bar. (In non-fullscreen mode, of course I can use the system to switch to tother app and desktop.)

Anyway, in normla or fullscreen mode, ctrl+backspace doesn't work, it's treated as key input and sent to the remote side.
Even after installing camkeyd, the focus key was sent to the remote side and I could hear my PC made some invalid key beep.

1.6 is required if the remote side is not using default rdp port, and it only has command line interface.

CarstenDutch 2010-01-26 13:54

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
How can i acces my N900? i want too control it with my pc

SubCore 2010-01-26 13:58

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CarstenDutch (Post 495492)
How can i acces my N900? i want too control it with my pc

for that you need x11vnc.

i recommend you read these threads, they contain all the information necessary to set up a vnc server on the N900:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=38879
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=34607

Saturn 2010-01-26 18:17

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Hi,

I'm using rdesktop-cli version 1.63-maemo3 and when in fullscreen the touchable part seems to be bigger than the screen.

For ex. if I want to press the x to close a window on my XP machine I need to press just outside the frame where the N900 engraving is on the faceplate.

Has anyone noticed something similar?

Thx

Saturn 2010-01-26 18:22

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mcdull (Post 493924)
I didn't mention I'm running it in fullscreen mode, so there is no system bar. (In non-fullscreen mode, of course I can use the system to switch to tother app and desktop.)

Anyway, in normla or fullscreen mode, ctrl+backspace doesn't work, it's treated as key input and sent to the remote side.
Even after installing camkeyd, the focus key was sent to the remote side and I could hear my PC made some invalid key beep.

1.6 is required if the remote side is not using default rdp port, and it only has command line interface.

I haven't found any other way to exit from the full screen apart from the "end current task"

It's just something inherited from the N800 where there is a button for the fullscreen on/off and it is possible by using that.

lendurhenry 2010-01-27 16:26

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Saturn (Post 495915)
Hi,
I'm using rdesktop-cli version 1.63-maemo3 and when in fullscreen the touchable part seems to be bigger than the screen.

You need to recalibrate your screen manually.

N900 uses some kind of clever auto-calibration that observes trends of offset touches. If you use finger a lot, the actual touch point will be lower than link or what ever you aim. System can correct it automatically if this is the nearest clickable object. And if this happens most of the time it concludes that screen has to be calibrated by this offset. In remote desktop you have to use stylus and this is more accurate device.

I trained myself to touch bit higher than used to and screen calibration stays in place.

autodrivel 2010-01-29 09:28

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
I couldn't find any answers on this thread to the following query:

Is it possible to save the settings for rdesktop 1.7 into a named file so they can be loaded at runtime?

I have 3 PCs that I need to access regularly and its becoming a pain to have to enter the settings by hand whenever I need to change machines. Typically, in a remote support session, I'll need to bounce between 2 out of the 3 PCs several times.

logantn 2010-01-29 11:35

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by autodrivel (Post 500601)
I couldn't find any answers on this thread to the following query:

Is it possible to save the settings for rdesktop 1.7 into a named file so they can be loaded at runtime?

I have 3 PCs that I need to access regularly and its becoming a pain to have to enter the settings by hand whenever I need to change machines. Typically, in a remote support session, I'll need to bounce between 2 out of the 3 PCs several times.


Would be an awesome feature; I've been curious about this.

Rich_H 2010-02-04 11:09

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Now I have tried all I can find getting rdesktop 1.7 working with my Win 7 RC... (Ultimate Ed)

I use a wlan router and have done the following steps:
1. set a static ip to your pc in your LAN

2. Disable firewall on pc or allow remote desktop port 3389
- Have also tested if the port is open, and it is.

3. Set password to your aco**** on your pc and make it member of Administrator - Tried with my original administrator account and also created a new one.

4. Enabled remote desktop on my computer - And tried different allowed users like "everyone" but also the administrator accounts.

5. Installed rdesktop 1.7 on my n900 and put in my computers IP (that I find in my router settings browser under the right connection) Username and password. Domain left blank.

6. When I then press ok, the n900 shows "Rdesktop cannot work properly as there is some problem with the connection network"

I have tried with both my Wlan and with 3G, same result.

When I ping as root with Wlan, I get the right response, with 3g i just get the first sentence with some byte data.


I am new with these kind of things but I would like to learn!
p.s. sorry if my english is a little off...

asidana 2010-02-04 11:34

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
has your username got password setup? Remote desktop does not allow you to logon without password but "Rdesktop cannot work properly as there is some problem with the connection network" means either connectiong to worng ip or port is not open

Brank 2010-02-04 11:41

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Are there any specific advantages on vnc that would make it better than rdesktop? I know vnc has right click and rdesktop doesn't, mut I've survived without it, since otherwise rdesktop works really well for me.

I'm mainly interested if vnc could work as a remote, as atleast when using rdesktop it mutes the sounds. would be awesome if from the couch I could put musics on for example, or put a movie on. Actually even now I can do those things, but I don't get sounds..

Rob1n 2010-02-04 11:45

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brank (Post 510254)
Are there any specific advantages on vnc that would make it better than rdesktop? I know vnc has right click and rdesktop doesn't, mut I've survived without it, since otherwise rdesktop works really well for me.

I'm mainly interested if vnc could work as a remote, as atleast when using rdesktop it mutes the sounds. would be awesome if from the couch I could put musics on for example, or put a movie on. Actually even now I can do those things, but I don't get sounds..

No, standard VNC doesn't include sound, printers, or file transfer. The main advantage of VNC over rdesktop is its cross-platform compatibility.

asidana 2010-02-04 11:52

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
remote desktop has right click, fn+2*ctrl
with vnc when you logon to remote pc, screen is visible. With Rd you logon like locally and screen does not show what you do a lot more private

Brank 2010-02-04 12:20

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by asidana (Post 510263)
remote desktop has right click, fn+2*ctrl

cool thanks! bit weird to use, but better than nothing!

netAdept 2010-02-04 12:25

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich_H (Post 510203)
Now I have tried all I can find getting rdesktop 1.7 working with my Win 7 RC... (Ultimate Ed)
.
.
.
I am new with these kind of things but I would like to learn!
p.s. sorry if my english is a little off...

Did you open up port 3389 in the Win 7 firewall?

Your english is fine .. ;)

drukane 2010-02-05 23:56

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by casper27 (Post 490358)

Ok thanks for the response, but seriously no need for the attitude, you could easily just respond without the sarcasm, and honestly you don't even need to respond to this either.

davand77 2010-02-20 12:31

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Is it possible to leave the audio on the local computer while using Rdesktop?

hstende 2010-02-23 20:00

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
I installed qtnx, but I can't get it working.
Anyone got it working in n900?

bachagabriel 2010-02-23 21:57

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
If you have windows Home premium you can't use Rdesktop

casper27 2010-02-23 22:04

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bachagabriel (Post 543346)
If you have windows Home premium you can't use Rdesktop

You can if you install termsrv.

juaalto 2010-02-26 15:09

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
We just uploaded rdesktop-1.7-maemo2 to Extras Devel. It supports non-standard ports.

You can configure <hostname>:<port>. If only <hostname> is given, rdesktop-1.7-maemo2 assumes standard port.

Pigro 2010-02-26 15:29

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
thanks, great work.

I have 1.7-maemo1 installed. it works fine & I don't need the non-standard port. just wondered

1) can someone post a brief guide on how to uninstall 1.7-maemo1 cleanly before installing the newer version?

2) can rdesktop be called (with parameters) from xterm (like rdesktop-cli) so that it can bypass the logon GUI screen if desired? or would i need to install rdesktop-cli for that

3) any issues with rdesktop and rdesktop-cli coexisting on n900?

Rob1n 2010-02-26 15:32

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pigro (Post 547678)
thanks, great work.

I have 1.7-maemo1 installed. it works fine & I don't need the non-standard port. just wondered

1) can someone post a brief guide on how to uninstall 1.7-maemo1 cleanly before installing the newer version?

2) can rdesktop be called (with parameters) from xterm (like rdesktop-cli) so that it can bypass the logon GUI screen if desired? or would i need to install rdesktop-cli for that

3) any issues with rdesktop and rdesktop-cli coexisting on n900?

There's no need to remove the old version - it'll get replaced by the new version. There's no issues with installing both rdesktop and rdesktop-cli. I don't know for sure about being able to pass arguments to the rdesktop app, but I doubt that's work.

Pigro 2010-02-26 16:56

Re: N900- Remote Desktop
 
quick question on rdesktop-cli , i installed it OK, then ran it from xterm with:

rdesktop-cli -u myusername -p myPassword -d myDomain xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx

I see a line "autoselected Keyboard-map UK-GB" and then a new window launches entitled "rdesktop-xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx". At this point I'm connected to the login screen for the target server, with the username prefilled. Touching the screen brings up a mouse pointer and I can postion the cursor at the user or password fields. When I type the password, nothing happens on the GUI - but when I switch tasks on n900 back to the xterm, I have a warning about colour depth, and then the password I entered is echoed on the xterm (edit for clarity - the terminal is still executing the rdesktop command at this time, i.e. the text is echoed with newline char's following the initial rdesktop command, but there is no $ prompt until the rdesktop session in the other window eventually times out or is closed).

This seems bizzarre - previous post in this thread said that the only way to get the keyboard working was by using full screen - am i doing something wrong here? The Rdesktop window is already fullscreen (except for the status bar at the top which I can't get rid of).

The other thing is that if I type a password and hit return the input goes to the xterm window, but if I click OK on the rdesktop GUI I get a popup saying invalid password (what I'd expect with a blank pasword field, but confirms that the rdp session isn't hung).

Any ideas?

ps- as per above post, I have rdesktop-cli coexisting with rdesktop 1.7-maemo1 on my n900

(EDIT #2 - D'oh! just realised that you need the -f switch when calling the app, ignore ths drivel, though I'll leave it here in case anyone else is as dumb s me in future !!)


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