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paulinep 2007-10-10 18:10

Can you update firmware "without" using Windows Wizard?
 
I am getting really anxious to get my firmware updated so "maybe" I can use my SDHC 8 Gig memory cards, etc.
I am stuck as reflected in my other email since I can't get the Windows Wizard to work to update my N800. Is there any other way I can get the firmware into the device. As stated in the other message, I get my device recognized, USB working, but something that says:
Authentication failed...because your Windows clock is not on time. See Windows Help and Support .....

And to make this even more fun, when I try to "synchronize my computer clock with time.windows.com, it says: "The Peer in Unreachable" Arghhhh! again. I hope someone can help me.
Thanks in advance.

paulinep 2007-10-10 18:23

Re: Can you update firmware "without" using Windows Wizard?
 
Talk about your crazy situations, I scoured the net on the clock thing and found that time.windows.com was broken for three weeks back in April and since I can't access it now, suspect it is broken again?, so if I can't synchronize my computer clock to get the download to work (now that all the other little encumbrences have been removed), that sort of leaves me stuck at this point.

krisse 2007-10-10 18:26

Re: Can you update firmware "without" using Windows Wizard?
 
I've never actually heard of this problem before.

Can you write down the error message word for word?

barry99705 2007-10-10 18:34

Re: Can you update firmware "without" using Windows Wizard?
 
Set the date and time in the bios. I've had window update fail for that reason. Setting the date and time in bios fixed it. Windows is weird some times.

Mara 2007-10-10 18:38

Re: Can you update firmware "without" using Windows Wizard?
 
Did the Nokia Software Update Wizard start at all, or did it start but failed to load latest firmware from the Internet? If the latter you might try to download the firmware manually (link should be on Nokia web site... look for flashing with Linux...). When starting the wizard you can select to flash the firmware from file.

I have not heard of this incorrect clock issue either... My PC clock is certainly couple minutes off and I never had a problem... Maybe your PC clock is completely off? Such as one year ahead/behind... ;)

krisse 2007-10-10 18:43

Re: Can you update firmware "without" using Windows Wizard?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mara (Post 81147)
you might try to download the firmware manually (link should be on Nokia web site... look for flashing with Linux...). When starting the wizard you can select to flash the firmware from file.

I don't think non-programmers would want to do this...


Quote:

Originally Posted by barry99705 (Post 81143)
Set the date and time in the bios. I've had window update fail for that reason. Setting the date and time in bios fixed it. Windows is weird some times.

To do this you may have to press a particular key when you first start the PC.

Make sure the monitor is on before you switch on the PC, switch on your PC, then you should see an option for accessing BIOS settings somewhere on the screen. It's normally something like F1 or F2.

paulinep 2007-10-10 18:45

Re: Can you update firmware "without" using Windows Wizard?
 
OK, I have downloaded the .bin file (firware update onto my C drive), but can't figure out how to "flash"?? the firmware from file.
The Wizard doesn't seem to have any choices here but to drive headlong smack into the authentication issue with the clock. In my other thread, I pretty much copied the messages I get word for word, but I can fill in the ... parts if you all think that would be helpful. Oh, and I get really scared when someone tells me to save the date and time in the bios??? not sure how to do that and with seconds ticking away, how can I be sure I have the exact right time? My windows clock as I type this says October 10, 2007 2:45 PM

MoridinBG 2007-10-10 18:47

Re: Can you update firmware "without" using Windows Wizard?
 
I encountered this the other day, when tried to flash on friend's windows box. The time was sync'd, but the error persisted. But then I pressed Back, then again Next and voalia. No error. Flashed (From file) with no problems. Then, just for the experiment I started the wizard again. The same error about time. Back, Next and it worked again. Strange, isn't it :)

krisse 2007-10-10 18:49

Re: Can you update firmware "without" using Windows Wizard?
 
Ahaa... try that tip above this message!


Quote:

Originally Posted by paulinep (Post 81151)
OK, I have downloaded the .bin file (firware update onto my C drive), but can't figure out how to "flash"??

I would strongly advise you to stick to the wizard.


Quote:

The Wizard doesn't seem to have any choices here but to drive headlong smack into the authentication issue with the clock.
Have you tried setting the clock in the BIOS yet?


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Oh, and I get really scared when someone tells me to save the date and time in the bios??? not sure how to do that and with seconds ticking away, how can I be sure I have the exact right time?
You don't need to have the exact time, just set the time as best you can.

Try doing that, then try the wizard again, then tell us what happens.

paulinep 2007-10-10 19:15

Re: Can you update firmware "without" using Windows Wizard?
 
OK, I am getting really, really happy here! I never could do the bios thing, kept screen on, rebooted (restart), no screen giving me option of F1 or F2, so I decided to completely shut down the computer (not restart), then rebooted and again no opportunity to do the Bios thing, so instead I tried the Wizard again and lo and behold, it slickered right on through and is downloading (at my other computer) as I type this! Not sure what the problem was but appreciate all the hand-holding, it must have been all those magic vibes from all of you that got the darned thing unstuck!!!
I'll be back as I try to figure out and get the most out of this N800, I am really, really hoping those SDHC memory cards work, I have not yet told my husband that I bought them and they didn't work. Maybe I won't have to!

krisse 2007-10-10 19:41

Re: Can you update firmware "without" using Windows Wizard?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paulinep (Post 81166)
OK, I am getting really, really happy here! I never could do the bios thing, kept screen on, rebooted (restart), no screen giving me option of F1 or F2, so I decided to completely shut down the computer (not restart), then rebooted and again no opportunity to do the Bios thing, so instead I tried the Wizard again and lo and behold, it slickered right on through and is downloading (at my other computer) as I type this! Not sure what the problem was but appreciate all the hand-holding, it must have been all those magic vibes from all of you that got the darned thing unstuck!!!

That's one of the golden rules of computing, if in doubt try shutting down and switching back on again. :p

If you do want to retry something, switching it off completely and then switching it on often works better than just restarting. I don't know why.

Incidentally, getting into the BIOS can be tricky, quite often the instructions are only on-screen for literally a second or two, and if your monitor is still warming up you may not see them at all. However, the manual that came with your PC may tell you what keys you need to press to get into BIOS, if you ever need to do that.


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I'll be back as I try to figure out and get the most out of this N800, I am really, really hoping those SDHC memory cards work, I have not yet told my husband that I bought them and they didn't work. Maybe I won't have to!
SDHC cards absolutely definitely work, they're part of the official N800 specifications:

http://europe.nokia.com/A4305063

"Two internal memory card slots, compatible with SD, MicroSD, MiniSD, MMC, and RS-MMC. Supports memory cards up to 8GB. SD cards over 2GB must be SDHC compatible."

As long as you have the latest firmware (which is what the update wizard is installing on your tablet), the SDHC cards should work fine.


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