Poll - Do you like Kagu's new scroll bars?
 

What do you think of Kagu Media Player's new scroll bars? They're available as of 1.0.9 and you can enable them from the Menu (scroll down to see the option).

Feel free to make comments and suggestions here regarding the scroll bars. Thanks!

Re: Poll - Do you like Kagu's new scroll bars?
 

BTW, here is a quick screen shot of the scroll bar being used in the song position/seek view:
http://www.guardiani.us/songposition.png

Re: Poll - Do you like Kagu's new scroll bars?
 

Love the scroll bars. Much easier and more precise to use than dragging one's finger. Also, now being able to label and save playlists is a great way for segregating chapters of audio books.

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i was going to vote for option #4, but seeing how everybody likes them I voted for option #3. they overlap with the items in the scroll area and that looks bad. especially with the right-hand cd-icon on the bigger items. doesn't look good.

my opinion is, they should be thin. really thin. if you can't/don't want to flick your finger to kinetic-scroll, use your fingernail to move the thin scrollbar :P i don't think finger-friendliness is necessary there, just takes too much space no matter what you do.

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I saw a scroll bar in an example screenshot of another media player for maemo recently. Here's the thread:
http://www.internettablettalk.com/fo...t=media+player

And here's the screenshot:
http://img105.imageshack.us/my.php?i...rplayersw0.jpg

I'm guessing that's the sort of scroll bar you'd like to see, disq?
Anyone else prefer that? I don't think they look too bad, personally, but saving space could be a good thing....

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I prefer the present scroll bar. The thinner one would require a more "precise" placement and use of the stylus. And I like the "boldness" of the new one's appearance, which for me doesn't get in the way of anything vital.

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We could probably pad the clickable area on a thinner bar so you don't need to be so precise.

What concerns me is that we might lose or limit the usability of the UP/Down buttons on the scrollbar. I think those are useful if you don't use the dpad much.

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yep trev, i'd like something like that. if it's that's too thin for other users it could be a little more bigger on the handle.

just takes too much space if it's fully thumb friendly. nobody has fingernails now? (also, remember that iphone has to be all-thumb friendly because their touchscreen doesn't work with nails)

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What's with the iphone reference? :) I've only used one once, but I know they don't have scroll bars. Only status indicators. And the status indicators don't make much sense to me.

Re: Poll - Do you like Kagu's new scroll bars?
 

disc, trev:

I really like the scroll bar as it is, especially for the song position it gives immediate feedback on the total lenght of the playing track. sliding it down to, let´s say, 5 minutes, is much faster than repeatedly dragging the kinetic list. If its a little bit thinner, OK, but not much, I also do not need a handle. It does not come in the way of any other visuals on my N800.

just my 2 cents,
karl.

Re: Poll - Do you like Kagu's new scroll bars?
 

I've been planning to rework the seek control for some time actually. In that case, the scroll widget would no longer be necessary for seek. But I'm not sure when I'll have the time/motivation to do it at this point. Hopefully soon. We'll see.

So for the future, the scroll widget should only be thought of as important to other lists, not seek. Though yes, it's quite handy for seek right now.

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I like the scrolbars almost as they are.
They should not overlap with the buttons (at first I was thinking of it as a bug!) and they should be tick so that you can use the scrollbar to navigate faster to where you think you want to go and then refine the search with the kinetic scrolling.

Actually you can show it up and when using the kinetic scroll, make it disappear and reappear automatically when the scroll is finishing/has finished.
(a fade in/out effect would be great).

Asking too much?

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Hmmm.... so, would that be a fade in with overlap? Or a fade in and a width change of the kinetic scroll widget at the same time? I think the overlap makes sense if we're doing a fade.

Honestly, I've never tried to do a fade in Kagu. I've always wanted to though. Not sure how difficult it would be.

What do you think about this idea, disq?

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Well having the fade with the inreasing size of the buttons would be nice, but dunno if the device can handle so many buttons at the same time.

Well, just try and see what you can do :)
I just threw the idea in...

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could definitely do without the scroll bars..giving a choice to have them on or off, works.
offtopic = when will video be added to the arsenal of media that kagu can play?