Help Needed For Mplayer for OS2008 (N810)
 

Let me say first, I HAVE SEARCHED this site and and everywhere to no avail.

Now that I have that disclaimer out of the way, this whole MPLAYER thing is driving me nuts. In order to use UKMP or other video programs I need MPLAYER installed. With much searching I located what I thought was it only to find it wouldn't install either as it was the wrong version or "other" files were needed. Isn't there a simple file out there with everything needed bundled together that I can install? I was told to get "1.0rc1-maemo.23.n8x0" so I searched and found a thing called "Testing Maemo Extras" (whatever that means) and it says right on there it includes "1.0rc1-maemo.23.n8x0" in the "package." So I try and install it and it says it cannot install as it needs a few other wackie files. Can someone post a link that has the OS2008 MPLAYER and whatever else it needs to insall MPLAYER?

Thanks in advance.

Re: Help Needed For Mplayer for OS2008 (N810)
 

Search the repositories for OS 2008 www.gronmayer.com/it/
(there is a search feature build into webpage, make sure OS2008 is selected)

This will advise which additional repository you require and it provides a one click install in order to include repository in your application Manger list of repositories.

Then you just need to update packages in application manager and mplayer should be available for download. (note warnings about the repository you are installing on the device)

Re: Help Needed For Mplayer for OS2008 (N810)
 

Hint: maemo extras-devel

(Which you really should've been able to find if you browsed through any of the dozen or so threads on the subject)

Re: Help Needed For Mplayer for OS2008 (N810)
 

yet another unhelpful post. what is that, what does it do and why would I want it? I already found "Testing Maemo Extras" and had no idea what it was either.

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WFT: The two post above refer to repositories, that you should load into your application manager. Normally when you set up the correct repositories to your application manager, and after you refresh the application list, you can browse installable applications. You should see then Mplayer then as installable application. Once you click and install that, it should download the necessary files from the repositories and install the application for you. (That's how I have installed my Mplayer. I did not have any problems on doing so.)

I hope this is the part on your puzzle you have been missing...

Re: Help Needed For Mplayer for OS2008 (N810)
 

A google search for "maemo extras-devel mplayer" gets me this in the second result.

Another search for "mplayer n810" finds this in the first result.

Yet another search for "mplayer os2008" gets me this , also in the first result.

A search on these forums of all three of the above queries gets me another set of useful threads which almost all mention the extras-devel repository (several of them specifically how to to install)

A search of http://www.gronmayer.com/it would've pointed you directly to the repository you needed to install, too.

Call it whatever the hell you want, but I'm just trying to point you in the right direction, and certainly gave you enough info to get you started if you had been willing to put forth a little effort. :rolleyes:

Re: Help Needed For Mplayer for OS2008 (N810)
 

If you spent a quarter of the effort actually answering the question posed -- Like Mara was able to do -- and not googling "maemo extras-devel mplayer" (whatever the heck that is) this would be a more useful site. Mara was able to explain -- in clear English no less -- and even did so without the cute use of the word "hint."

I suspect a rock is out there somewhere waiting for you to crawl back under it.

Re: Help Needed For Mplayer for OS2008 (N810)
 

You have lost me, in what way was my post unhelpful, you did say that you had found the repository but that when you installed mplayer it did not work.

All I can say is I installed mplayer with no problems using the method I described. Also if as you say mplayer refuses to install, there is usually a view "details" for why, if you read these details it will give you BIG clues on file(s) that are missing. Go back to http://www.gronmayer.com/it/index.ph...&system=maemo4 search for the named file(s) in the 2008 repositories to find the repository with the missing file(s), make sure that repository is included in your list. (Use and understand "how to use" application manager on OS 2008)

Then hopefully mplayer will install and also pull down the missing files it needs. Hope this is additionally helpful, Merry Christmas

Have you got it working now, that's better than taking additional "pots" at someone where you can easily cause the what me situations which start all the silly flames in forums.

Re: Help Needed For Mplayer for OS2008 (N810)
 

MikeL: not you -- I was referring to "the general."

Re: Help Needed For Mplayer for OS2008 (N810)
 

Well, I'm glad to have wasted my time.

Re: Help Needed For Mplayer for OS2008 (N810)
 

WFT, I think the point was that if you had done a decent search and done some reading you could have found all your answers. You can't expect the people here to answer every question again for every new user that comes along, answering it once should be enough to provide a result in a search.

Coming here and whining about "unhelpful" answers isn't winning you any friends from the helpful people here. You have to take some responsibility to educate yourself via searching and reading, and not just rely on others to do your research for you.

Re: Help Needed For Mplayer for OS2008 (N810)
 

if you think "Hint: maemo extras-devel" is a helpful response to my original post then you and the general deserve each other....

Re: Help Needed For Mplayer for OS2008 (N810)
 

WTF's furstration is understandable: I recently bought the n810 after reading about the the n770 and n800 for more than a year on this forum (not daily though). Even with that the use and upgrade of the n810 is not at all straightforward, and if you are not a software nerd and know about repositories and libraries, you get easily lost.

In my opinion the Tablet as it is today is not yet ready for prime time in the market. I like it but I have to invest a lot of time to get it to work and there are perfomance issues (especially for Internet browsing) that I hope will be solved with the next OS.

People here are in general very helpful and cannot be blamed for the poor software development framework provided by Nokia.

Good luck WTF and hope you have some time to spend with the toy during your holidays (or nights as I often do). It is interesting as it opens another world and I am learning a lot from this.

However, not everyone can spent time and energy on this, and they too deserve a good service/support.

Antonio

Re: Help Needed For Mplayer for OS2008 (N810)
 

Thanks for the note. It turns out that it was incredibly easy to fix. I feel "dumb" now that I understand the process. The problem is when you dont understand that process many of the posts are unhelpful -- they are using short hand tech speak. Now that I understand things better, I will try to practice as I preach and help out people with straight forward, non "techie" replies.

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Nobody has said it was. It's step 3 of 5 for Nokia on their plan for a consumer-friendly device.

The development framework is fine. The problems lies in the fragmented nature of maemo application repositories. This will improve going forward as Nokia improves the Garage and more developers start using it.


For now, there's a wonderful website at http://gronmayer.com/it that will solve all of your application and dependency needs.

If people can't be bothered to try and help themselves, then why should the helpful sorts around here be expected to stop and hold their hands everytime another one pops up? (Which is incredibly often these days)

Help on a community-driven forum like this is a two-way street. Those with the knowledge are more than willing to help out those without as long as they are willing to put forth a little bit of effort to solve their own problems themselves.

Nobody here is paid of the support they provide, and they only do it out of the goodness of their hearts, so an attitude of entitlement isn't a good way to get help from them.* :)

*This is a general statement and does not apply to anyone in particular.

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What time do you have to invest to make it work? There is nothing much to be done besides filling the setup screens, and you are set up to use it as announced, which it will do well, within the limits of a small battery powered device. Which means that we'll always have performance issues with some sites - FWIW half the recent wave of media overloaded sites are barely usable with my three-year-old desktop computer running Linux due to outrageously broken HTML, media overload or IE dependency, but as Myspace, Youtube etc. only consider owners of this years monster desktop machine a worthwhile customer, I am not interested in their offers, and prefer to waste my time on less hostile sites...

The whole bunch of hacker extensions we talk about that much here is not ready for prime time - and only a few of them will eventually convert to mainstream application. But the same goes for all free offers, on every OS and machine.

Re: Help Needed For Mplayer for OS2008 (N810)
 

i think the playback of the MPLAYER isnt as good as the media player that came with it. At least I can see the full UKMP in action...

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Which is part of the reason why mplayer is still in extras-devel. flv playback seems to have taken the biggest hit, but mplayer is still faster with DivX stuff.

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Some people pick it up faster due to their background / experience. I have a computer background, but no Linux experience so I've had a lot of learning to do to get beyond the basics. I've learnt it all through my own browsing and from searching the posts in places like this. Yes, it is time-consuming if you have a lot to learn... that's life.

If the poster can't be bothered to spend the time and effort required for them to learn about the device that they *chose* for themselves, then why should I spend my (volunteer) time on them. I'll give the basics to get them going in the right direction (as the posters in this thread did), but I'm not going to hand-hold someone who claims to have done the research but clearly hasn't.

If they want support from someone that is *obliged* to hand-hold them, then they should phone Nokia, not come to a community forum.

And if that solution isn't good enough, they should just sell/return it. Because it is unreasonable to expect others to hand-hold them for free simply because they got themselves in over their head by making this purchase. If you can't handle what it takes to learn it, return it.

Re: Help Needed For Mplayer for OS2008 (N810)
 

My small input. Other people come across the same questions. I've been stuggling with mPlayer, but didn't want to post a simple question (well, I know it'd be simple for you guys).

So I waited a while. So, thanks to the OP and GeneralAntilles.

Cheers ...

Re: Help Needed For Mplayer for OS2008 (N810)
 

Mara,

Thanks for the clarification ( a while ago...). I have followed the instructions and downloaded mplayer rc1. Very nice. However, I was looking for rc2. Any chance you can help me get an installer? I downloaded the source, but I'm afraid I'm not much of a linux compiler guru.

Appreciate the help. ;)