Nokia N810 vs HTC Tilt
 

Does anyone think that the Tilt has anything over the N810? Do you think it will be a good trade?

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I think I would take the HTC Tilt over the N810, just because it has a better camera (3MP vs. 0.3MP) and it is also a cell phone, unlike the N810. Or, it could be the fact that I already have an N800. ^_^

No really, I think the only downfall of the Tilt smartphone is that it runs windows mobile. :)

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This is a real hard choice. I love the tilt's form factor very unique. But I HATE windows mobile

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Yeah, I have used windows mobile for a few fews in the past and in the last couple of years I just quit completely. I will never be going back. It is kind of hard to compare two devices that were built and designed for two completely different purposes.

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For real man it always seems to freeze at critical times, however I cant bash windows all the way they do have some positive attributes

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I don't think you can really compare these devices against each other, one is designed to be a smartphone and one is made to be an internet appliance/mini-computer. The resolution of the tilt is also much lower, along with no support for *SDHC, no GPS, Windows Mobile, etc. I definitely wouldn't pick it over the N810, unless you specifically needed GSM capabilities (along with the monthly fees assosiated with that). From a hardware perspective I think the N810 completely blows the tilt away, but that's what I think. :D

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I'm hoping that the next generation NIT will use one of the couple of tilt screen patents that Nokia has.

What I'd really like to see is something like the screen of the Sidekick Slide*, only with the ability to tilt the screen anywhere along its travel path (so you can just tilt it instead of having a kickstand). I'd prefer that over the HTC/AT&T Tilt's format.


(* screen slides to reveal keyboard, side-boards don't slide, side-boards have buttons (dpad/trackball, function buttons, soft keys) that are usable whether the screen is "open" or not)

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@cybercat
the tilt does have a gps chip and support for sdhc.
as far as wich one to get, well do yo want 1box or 2. also windows mobile6 is alot nicer than the previous versions of the os. lots of improvements. dont forget triband umts/hsdpa plus wlan b/g.one more thing to consider- for watching video/movies etc the tilt is missing grafix excelorator(theres a class action lawsuit against htc for this ) from what i've read it makes watching video not a nice experence.

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Ah, OK. The site I was looking on said only "MicroSD" slot, and it made no mention of any GPS receiver. The tilt definitely looks like it has a better camera, which is nice (although that's not hard to do considering the very low quality of the N8x0 cameras). I don't know why Nokia can't put the camera from the N95 into the N8x0s. The N810 still has a much better screen. Also keep in mind that this is comparing a $1,300 device (MSRP) with a $500 device, at that price difference I would certainly hope it would be much better.

Also while I admit I'm not super familiar with Windows Mobile, I suspect that OS2008 et al. are more open, expandable, and flexible for software development. But if you want a 'real' phone, obviously the N8x0s are not for you (although the WiMax version could start to change that).

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If you're considering the Tilt Vs. an NIT, I would first say you should actually be thinking Tilt vs iphone or another Intelligent phone/device, to compare the 2 (tilt vs N800/810) just doesn't work.

I was this close to getting a Tilt a couple months ago, but instead went with the DUO. (at that time I believe the tilt was $399 list and the Duo $299 list (got mine considerably cheaper though) Realize the Duo is a lesser phone as it doesn't have WM6 Pro, touch screen, GPS, Wi-Fi, or that big MP camera. But I also already own an N800.

I'd not ever used WM6 (or prev. ver.) but had played with it on both phones, Pro has diff options etc. so WM6 vs WM6 Pro has some differences, but the overall experience is the same, EXTREMELY slow, and you have to go through umpteen menu's etc to do anything. One would probably not want to use a quote un quote smartphone all the time everyday.

I've used MS Windows since DOS/3.1 etc have some experience with dual boot Linux, not ever used OSX on a normal day to day basis (have played with it here and there) and I seriously can not stand WM.. You literally have to go through menu after menu after menu to do very simple things.

If I could do it all over again, I would either go with a Blackberry Device or Palm, hands down, and I can't believe I'm saying this but if today I could have 1 device and 1 device only I would get an iphone in a minute.

Have messed about with one a few diff times at the phone store and it totally blows away any MS mobile device and outside of doing anything command line driven etc. I think it has much better software then the NIT, the iphone is a really good device. I think Nokia does a much better job hardware wise but Apple just nails it with the software.

This is one reason why Apple has taken majority lead in mobile devices within a year or so already.

When Apple released the SDK for the iphone literally within hours there were hundreds of apps for the iphone/touch, and we are at about 3 years with Nokia and Maemo, and there are many apps but many times you have to jump through hoops to get apps to work.

This is one of the reasons why Linux on mobile devices (let alone desktop) will prob not ever pass or surpass MS, Apple, Palm etc,. Linux just isn't at this point ready for end users and the "everyday" user, people want simple point and click apps. At the end of the day Linux continues to be a tinkers' OS.

At the end of the day if you want a phone to pick up and call ppl and you also want to tinker with a mobile device I'd say then go ahead get a lesser phone and then an N800/810 or even an Asus EEE PC, but if you want 1 device to rule all and have easy access to programs, apps etc. then I'd have to say get an iPhone as much as this kills me to say.

(I just wish that here in the states we could get Nokia Smartphones and other phones through our Mobile provider, rather then to have to pay full price which is what we have now)

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TTgowings, Last time I checked, AT&T sells a 'branded' N75.
However, I feel that people are better off buying a phone outright... unbranded, unlocked but, I
also understand others who get an affordable phone with a contract.

OP: One is a phone; the other is not. OS also is can be an issue...

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A couple of significant factors.
1) The tilt runs Windows, which has a huge library of available polished software, much of which is commercial (you have to pay for it).
2) The IT software is mostly free, but very limited. Software developers for the IT, generously do so for free, but without a profit motive, they focus on application they find most useful for their own needs, which aren't what most mainstream users want. Hence, there is no PIM application that syncs with the most commonly used desktop applications. There is also no office suite that supports the most common document file formats. I've seen the argument that this is NOT a PDA, but, for god's sake, it IS a computer an should be able to handle PIM and office type aplications.

3) Web browsing is much better on the IT than on any PPC I've used, but there is a new browser called Skyfire that is in beta, that may significantly close the gap.

4) The Tilt is also a cell phone.

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Yeah, the DUO looks more interesting to me than the Tilt.

I don't want a windows phone. I consider WinMo to be a liability, not an advantage. So, the DUO has all of the upsides of the Tilt, without the downsides. Except that I don't know how well the DUO does with tethering.


If there's ever a NIT with 3G GSM or EVDO, and with a sliding tilt screen, I'll probably use that single device.

Without that, then any good solid phone, with a keyboard for TXTing, and solid tethering ability, is all I need. I don't need it to have PDA functionality, because I'll use my NIT for that. In fact, if my Samsung SCH-R410 had bluetooth-dun and EVDO, that'd be all I needed. (well, that, and an option through MetroPCS to not have any port filtering/proxies)

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I've had 0 luck with my DUO and N800, it pairs but yet they never connect or see each other after pairing, so that goes for tethering as well.

I've got posts here, Howard Forums, ATT, and the XDA developers site. No one seems to know why they won't see each other.

And I have no probs with my BT keyboard on the N800 and a BT headset on the phone side.

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I just got an HTC Mogul (thru Sprint) this week, which is pretty much the same as the tilt, except the screen doesn't actually tilt when you slide it out, its more like the n810 and stays flat.

I was planning on making a new thread to compare it to my 770, but until then, I'll just post a few observations here.

-the htc is smaller than the IT's. length/width, its a tad smaller than an iphone or ipod touch, but it is thicker at .7 inches. so its easier to carry around, though its noticably heavier and bigger than a traditional cell phone.

-the mogul has both EVDO and WiFi for connecting to the net. This is extremely convenient, since you can go online anywhere you have cell reception, and instantly switch to wifi if you are near a hot spot. it also came with a 512mb mini-SD card installed. The BIG reason I got this, is because a friend of mine hooked me up with Sprint's special referral plan, which is 500 phone minutes + UNLIMITED text and data for $30/month. That was cheaper than my 350 min plan (phone only!) with ATT! yay, free internets!

-the small 320x240 resolution hampers internet browsing. especially compared to the 800x480 on the IT's. This is where the IT shines IMO. IE for PPC is actually pretty good otherwise. I was able to change some settings in IE (smaller text and page layout mode w/ full screen), and the browser is much better and much more usable now, but still not as good as the IT. Apple's safari browser scales much better than IE for what its worth.

-I tried opera with the flash plugin, and it worked decent. Youtube videos play, but they are choppy so I uninstalled opera, and just use a plugin for IE with the Core media player (TCPMP) and it works great! when you click on a youtube link, it prompts you to either download, or watch the clip. if you click on 'watch', tcpmp opens and starts playing the clip without much delay.

-The device comes with a decent amount of software on it already. PIM functions such as calendar, tasks, contacts etc are already installed. It comes with office mobile with pocket word, excel, and powerpoint. Windows media player, windows live, picture viewer, calculator, instant messaging, and more. A lot of this stuff you would need to install on an IT.

-There is a lot of free software for WM6. I downloaded and istalled Google Maps interface, and the core media player with flash plugin for youtube type videos, I also installed a homescreen customizer, and the "Touchflo" interface that comes on other HTC phones that don't have a keyboard. And I do have to say that installing extra software is so much easier on WM than it is on Meamo. no repositories to search for and download. Just copy the .cab file on the device and click it.
And I haven't had any stability problems with WM6. Except when I tried minimo, it crashed within a few minutes, but IE seems to work very well so far, so that's what I use. It does have a very annoying bug (feature?) though. A lot of applications don't actually 'close' when you exit the program. They continue to run in the background, so every now and then you have to check the memory task manager and manually close all the apps to free up memory (at least you can click "close all"). that is ******ed. thx microsoft!

-video plays video just fine. I encoded a few TV shows to 320x240, and they play perfectly on the device (I use TCPMP). Much better than my 770 plays video.

-The keyboard is small, but convenient. feel could be better, and the buttons have only a slight curve to them, but after using it for a bit, you get used to it and thumb typing becomes pretty easy.

I was hoping to replace my IT with this smartphone device, but I'm not sure I'm going to sell my 770 just yet. for strictly browsing, the IT has the advantage with a great high res screen. if the HTC screen were higher resolution, I'd already have the 770 on eBay. But for now, I'll use the 770 when I'm lounging around the house, but will use the HTC for all my other needs.

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Assuming that if you get an N810 you still want a phone, then the comparison would be between a Tilt v N810 + Phone.

In this case, the camera etc. potentially becomes less significant due to them being available in the phone etc...

I've got the N810 and looking to pick up the N82, so camera is not an issue...

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