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Tolwyn 2008-03-26 21:17

Mapping Vista drives - losing my mind!
 
I've been attempting to map drives on my main PC, which runs Vista. The computer shows up in File Manager (Shared Folders), but I get "(no files/folders)"
I've tried pretty much everything (insuring guest account is enabled, all shared folders have appropriate access, etc) but no go!
I can see shared folders on another XP machine, and all my PCs share files between Vista & XP with no issues.
I can also rdesk into the Vista PC from my N810.
Any help, hints or suggestions are greatly appreciated - help me save what is left of my sanity!

dugomugo 2008-03-26 21:43

Re: Mapping Vista drives - losing my mind!
 
Dude, I totally have the same problem. I have 2 Vista Machines that I cannot access on my N800 in the file manager. I even went so far as to completely format and reinstall Vista on one of the machines to no avail. I am able to access XP shared folders but no Vista :( . Well, I guess that's just part of the "wow" of Vista.

Tolwyn 2008-03-26 23:14

Re: Mapping Vista drives - losing my mind!
 
What I don't get is why my other XP machines can see the folders, but not the N810. Does it have something to do with not being able to assign the domain in the N810?
Arrrgggg!

yabbas 2008-03-26 23:59

Re: Mapping Vista drives - losing my mind!
 
First thing's first - you can't access password protected directories - it all has to be guest access.

If they are non-password protected, then it MAY be the same old CIFS like issue cropping up with NTLMv2. I had similar problems trying to see my NSLU2 drives.

Try this: http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS4434907782.html

Quote:

Click "Start -> Run." Then, type in the Run field: "secpol.msc." That will bring you to Vista's security policy system. Once there, use "Go to: Local Policies > Security Options" and then find "Network Security: LAN Manager" authentication level. Once there, change the Setting from "Send NTLMv2 response only" to "Send LM & NTLM -- use NTLMv2 session security if negotiated."
If secpol doesn't do the trick see if it's been changed in the registry:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/147706

If this fixes it can you add an entry to the Wiki in the relevant location please :)

Tolwyn 2008-03-27 00:26

Re: Mapping Vista drives - losing my mind!
 
yabbas,

Great suggestions, tried them, but unfortunately it did not work. I tried changing a few other settings in the secpol.msc file, but no go.
As far as I know, I don't have any password protected shares, how would I confirm this?
Any new suggestions are appreciated!

Tolwyn 2008-03-27 15:44

Re: Mapping Vista drives - losing my mind!
 
As a further detail, my Axim x50v pocket PC seems to map the vista drives with no problem, so I am really puzzled...

ClarenceGWhite 2008-03-28 00:03

Re: Mapping Vista drives - losing my mind!
 
I have the same problem. The N810 maps the network drives on a PC running Windows XP with no problems. However, not so with a PC running Vista. I took 'yabbas' suggestions from an earlier post, but no luck.

I put all of my Vista sharing settings at the lowest possible security level. Still, no luck. (This Vista machine is so wide open that a guy driving by our house at 90 miles an hour running a Radio Shack TRS-80 can see all my files.)

newf 2008-04-01 22:48

Re: Mapping Vista drives - losing my mind!
 
i have never been able to get this to work, XP or Vista. But my shares are all password protected. I think it's pathetic that we still don't have an solution for this in the OS. What is nokia doing over there? playing nintendo Wii or something? This platform is going to die...if it hasn't already, before it takes off due to bad support.

kernelpanic 2008-04-01 23:57

Re: Mapping Vista drives - losing my mind!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by newf (Post 163630)
i have never been able to get this to work, XP or Vista. But my shares are all password protected. I think it's pathetic that we still don't have an solution for this in the OS. What is nokia doing over there? playing nintendo Wii or something? This platform is going to die...if it hasn't already, before it takes off due to bad support.

I'm not running vista. But I've had good luck with wizard mounter mounting password protected shares in XP... Have you tried it yet? If not it's here at the garage-http://garage.maemo.org/projects/wizard-mounter/

I'd try setting up an SMB share in wizardmounter using your vista username/password and see what happens... (should appear under Remote_Filesystem under the device name in File Manager if successful...)

Cheers,
kernelpanic
[edit] I had an issue where cifs.ko wasn't loading automatically. I added-

insmod /lib/modules/current/cifs.ko

to /etc/init.d/rcS to fix...
[/edit]

newf 2008-04-02 01:24

Re: Mapping Vista drives - losing my mind!
 
Yes, the wizard program. Thanks for the tip, but I can never get this r34 kernal nonsense installed. Which bring me to my next beef with this nokia, Why is installing things on this device so over complicated? if a program needs a package in order to install...INSTALL IT! just DO IT! Go to the web and get it! lol

GeneralAntilles 2008-04-02 01:26

Re: Mapping Vista drives - losing my mind!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by newf (Post 163677)
if a program needs a package in order to install...INSTALL IT! just DO IT! Go to the web and get it! lol

You obvious understand very little about how this stuff works. Suffice to say, it's not that simple.

kernelpanic 2008-04-02 04:07

Re: Mapping Vista drives - losing my mind!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by newf (Post 163677)
Yes, the wizard program. Thanks for the tip, but I can never get this r34 kernal nonsense installed. Which bring me to my next beef with this nokia, Why is installing things on this device so over complicated? if a program needs a package in order to install...INSTALL IT! just DO IT! Go to the web and get it! lol

Yes, wizard mounter has some dependency issues. It happens with applications, especially new ones. If you've got root access (i.e.- ssh or R&D mode enabled) Then you can do-

# apt-get install wizard-mounter

in xterm.

If you don't know what 'root access' is there's another way-

1. enable red pill mode. Open the application manager. then goto tools->application catalog. In the window that appears, click 'new'. Then in the web address field, remove the http:// and type 'matrix'. Then press 'cancel'. If you do it right, you'll see a 'which pill' dialog. Click 'red'. Now browse for wizard-mounter and click to install. It should succeed.

2. Once you've got wizard-mounter installed, you may need to load the cifs module manually. (This can be problematic without root access. If you run linux, use the flasher to enable R&D mode, otherwise, installing an ssh server/client is recomended. ) Anyway, as root you may need to do-

# insmod /lib/modules/current/cifs.ko

in xterm before the program will work. (If you try to mount and the program crashes, the module is not loaded, try again.)

As for being able to install stuff like this easily, cut Nokia some slack. Accessing protected shares isn't included with the device, nor supported. Most of what we're doing here is like that. But they've created an open platform which we can hack. The functionality you seek is being developed by third parties, not by Nokia.

They've built the OS, we build the apps. Moreover, most of the apps being developed are open source and free.

If you want easy, get an ipod touch. On the bright side, You won't have to hack it. But on the other hand, you won't be able to hack it, should you want to do something interesting.

my advice- Do some research, use ITT and google, play around. It's not as hard as it looks, you'll end up with a really cool gadget, and you may even discover that hacking is FUN!

Cheers,
kernelpanic

Tolwyn 2008-04-02 14:37

Re: Mapping Vista drives - losing my mind!
 
Thanks for the tips, maybe I'll try wizard mounter. The funny part is that NONE of my vista shares are password protected, so in theory I should be able to see them.

*sigh*

Maybe the next version of the OS will be more Vista friendly!

newf 2008-04-02 15:01

Re: Mapping Vista drives - losing my mind!
 
I have no issues getting root access. Thanks for the write up, I appreciate it man, but still no go.

# apt-get install wizard-mounter

this gives me, r34 package not installable error

Doing it through red pill mode, Wizard install gives me the usual, need dependancy nonsense, then application manager crashes. Just odd

To continue my rant, and this is not directed at those kind enough to help... just a general rant..sorry.

I don't agree that it can't be easier to install things like this. All it takes is a little obvious planning. If the developer of said program knows everyone is going to need a dependancy, then write a script to check for it, if it's not there prompt the user with the option to install and provide a link to grab it. instead we get some poorly written readme file pointing to a ftp that is a bloody mess, and we are trying to type all of this stuf into a silly onscreen kb most of the time. Or at least, on the very page to download Wizard on maemo, have the link for the dependancy right next to it. other programs do this, why can't they all do it. These geniuses that program this stuff tend to forget how to explain things a little better for the rest of the world to understand imho.

Linux has always been more work then play. It don't mind hacking things here and there, but I have enough things to "hack" as it is, and this device just needs to "work", and the more I use it, the more it's crashes and lock ups are pissing me off.

I think Nokia is partially responsible for this. Being able to access windows shares is a bloody no brainer. SMB support is available on the most trivial of devices. Of course people are going to want to access their files on other windows based machines, there is no excuse to not have this natively and should have been there since day 1.

This IT platform is already dead imho, and other companies are going to surpass nokia if they haven't already. I have it to serve certain functions when it works, I do like fiddling with it most of the time, but the 3-4 months I have had it, I have seen no progress on some of the most trivial of things like this smb support. I hate apple, and you mention the ipod, and you do realize how easy the itouch is hacked? and the progress that scene is making is leaps above what I see here in the time they have had it. Nokia isn't serious enough about this platform, they are guinea pigging us as far as I'm concerned and leaving the real work to the kindness and talent of the open source community probably because it's free for them. Lunux is some ways was a mistake to use, a blessing in others....in my near 30 years of computing, that is the way linux has always been and always will be.

There should be no "hacking" involved to simply access a smb share, that is foolishness and a prime example of how this platform is doomed to fail.

Traecer 2008-04-02 15:33

Re: Mapping Vista drives - losing my mind!
 
Hmm...is the iPhone able to mount Windows/Samba shares and access them directly? This is news...

thureen 2008-04-13 06:24

Re: Mapping Vista drives - losing my mind!
 
I have been trying to install wizard mounter, got the same error when doing apt-get as root.

In the wizard-mounter readme it states:
"""
Wizard Mounter 1.0 -- README --

Wizard Mounter depends on :

rx-34-kernel-nfs-modules
portmap

both could be installed adding the repository :

deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras bora free non-free
""""

I was thinking "deb" was command, but it gives and error. I did go the application manger and add http://repository.maemo.org/extras bora free non-free. But that didn't help.

Any suggestions would be helpful.

Vrette 2008-05-11 01:11

Re: Mapping Vista drives - losing my mind!
 
Has anyone been able to get this to work? I've tried the Wizard Mounter and when I try to mount the drive via NFS, the connection times out. When I select Samba, I the following error message.

[mount] Ops! An error occurred:
mount //192.1.1.1/D$ is write-protected, mounting read only
mount: mounting //192.1.1.1/D$ on /home/user/MyDocs/Remote_Filesystem/D$@192.1.1.1 failed

I have the D drive set up for sharing, and I'm using the proper login credentials. I also changed the network security settings in Vista.

Texrat 2008-05-11 17:56

Re: Mapping Vista drives - losing my mind!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by newf (Post 163890)
This IT platform is already dead imho <snip>
this platform is doomed to fail.

Um, no, but thanks for playing!


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