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Need translators to evaluate transifex.net

To make live easier for users, translators and developers there is an objective to simplify the translation of our beloved applications.

This will benefit every one. Users will get translated software, translators will get a simple interface for creating translations and developers don't have to care about all that stuff anymore :)

You can help by just donating a couple of minutes to this community doing a bit translation work. After that tell us what you think about the process.

I registered Conboy on the transifex.net website so we all can see how easy (or difficult) it is to use. The good thing is, that Conboy only has a view short strings, so the translation shouldn't take more than about 15 minutes.

What do you have to do if you want to help?

1) Go to http://transifex.net and create an account
2) Tell me your transifex.net user name and I will add you or just request to be added to the Conboy project directly on the website. I'll give out permissions as fast as I can.
3) Once you have the permissions, do some translations and submit them.
4) Tell us what you think about the process etc...

The project is here: http://www.transifex.net/projects/p/conboy/
There are two components you can choose to translate only one of them or both.

All these translations will be used in the next release, and will bring you eternal fame and glory :)

Happy translating!

Re: Need translators to evaluate transifex.net

Done, user "fpp". bring it on :-)

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Let's give it a try. Username: mehdi

Re: Need translators to evaluate transifex.net

That's the spirit :) You're both added.

Re: Need translators to evaluate transifex.net

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Originally Posted by Tomaszd (Post 356693)

Username: tomaszd.

Added! Thanks :)

Re: Need translators to evaluate transifex.net

French translation updated. The interface is quite cool.

A couple of questions though :

1) What's "fuzzy" ?...

2) Some of my previous strings has colons (":") appended, so I suppose the originals had them, too. The new labels next to the text boxes don't have them any more (except #28, "Search:").
Must I remove them from the translations too ?

BTW, shouldn't #22 be "Forward" ?...

Re: Need translators to evaluate transifex.net

Quote:

Originally Posted by conny (Post 356695)

Added! Thanks :)

Would you be able to add the package name and description to the list of strings? You could also create a crowd-sourcing thread for these specific strings, like the other thread about "Classic Gaming Wallpapers".

Re: Need translators to evaluate transifex.net

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Originally Posted by fpp (Post 356698)

1) Fuzzy is a string that changed during the development process and a translation closest to it was matched using fuzzy logic :) It can be completely inaccurate, so check all of them.

2) Any changes in original strings must be reflected in the translations.

Re: Need translators to evaluate transifex.net

Only one question, how can I add new language? Then I try add translated or empty pot file a I only see this error:

"The uploaded file did not pass the correctness check. Please run 'msgfmt -c' on a terminal to see the errors."

:-(

Re: Need translators to evaluate transifex.net

I'm JosefA (surprisingly) on transifex. Let's have a looksee what the service can do.

Re: Need translators to evaluate transifex.net

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Originally Posted by fpp (Post 356698)

I got the new translations, but it looks like nothing has changed. There are still a couple of untranslated strings. Not sure why?! I'll have a closer look.

"Fuzzy" means, that I have changed the keys. The localization tools are doing an automated matching, thus it's not clear whether or not the translation is still valid. So just check the fuzzy strings and if they are still ok remove the fuzzy check box.

The "Foreward" key is obviously wrong - yes :) I just was in such a hurry. This will be a key that will change soon. The translation will then be marked as 'fuzzy'.

And about the colons I would say that if the key has a colon, the translation should usually have one too. But again I might have made mistakes myself. ;)

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JosefA (Post 356706)

I'm JosefA (surprisingly) on transifex. Let's have a looksee what the service can do.

You're added. Thanks a lot :)

Re: Need translators to evaluate transifex.net

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomaszd (Post 356699)

I definitively want to do that. I'm still not sure how to properly localize the name and description of a debian package, but I'll ask zerojay about it soon.

Re: Need translators to evaluate transifex.net

Quote:

Originally Posted by conny (Post 356709)

I got the new translations, but it looks like nothing has changed. There are still a couple of untranslated strings. Not sure why?! I'll have a closer look.
"Fuzzy" means, that I have changed the keys. The localization tools are doing an automated matching, thus it's not clear whether or not the translation is still valid. So just check the fuzzy strings and if they are still ok remove the fuzzy check box.
The "Foreward" key is obviously wrong - yes :) I just was in such a hurry. This will be a key that will change soon. The translation will then be marked as 'fuzzy'.
And about the colons I would say that if the key has a colon, the translation should usually have one too. But again I might have made mistakes myself. ;)

Thanks for the clarification(s). I did submit the form so if the new strings are not there, there may be a problem, or perhaps you need to commit them or something ?...

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Quote:

Originally Posted by conny (Post 356709)

I got the new translations, but it looks like nothing has changed. There are still a couple of untranslated strings. Not sure why?! I'll have a closer look.

Well, I checked again and the translation that I received is the same that was there before. Only the formatting of some comments was changed.

Probably not what you want the hear, but: Could you try again?

I've tested it today with the German translation and it did work for me.

Re: Need translators to evaluate transifex.net

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Originally Posted by fpp (Post 356720)

Thanks for the clarification(s). I did submit the form so if the new strings are not there, there may be a problem, or perhaps you need to commit them or something ?...

Yes, I need to commit them, but I have nothing to commit :(
The current workflow ATM is, that whenever someone submits the form, I get an email with the new .po file. I copy this file in my source tree and commit it so svn. Then the status on the transifex site gets updated.

The problem is, the file which I received via email is almost exactly the same as the file which exists already. So, yea, something is not good.

Could you try again, maybe just with 2 or 3 strings?

Re: Need translators to evaluate transifex.net

sign me up for Danish translations with the username bitcrusher :)

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kayle.sk (Post 356702)

Could you paste the file here? Maybe we can see what's wrong?

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fpp, now I got a file with plenty of changes!

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I just did it all over, unchecking all "fuzzy" boxes, both commits show up in history, but I think the result is still the same :-(

edit : oh, all right then :-)

First time, I didn't uncheck the "fuzzies", and I also had "NoScript" on which killed some javascript on the page. Either, or both, may explain the first failed attempt...

Re: Need translators to evaluate transifex.net

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Originally Posted by fpp (Post 356698)

French translation updated.

Damn, you were fast. I didn't even get a chance to look at it ;) Checked the stable version and it looks good to me.

Why do all the Main branch versions show up as 44% done? I can't see what's missing.

Re: Need translators to evaluate transifex.net

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitcrusher (Post 356729)

sign me up for Danish translations with the username bitcrusher :)

Done. Thanks a lot! Now we already have 7 people - not bad :)

Re: Need translators to evaluate transifex.net

Quote:

Originally Posted by fpp (Post 356736)

Check the site - you just reached 100%! Congratulations :D

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Yup. Its seems the page sometimes requires a forced refresh from the browser (Ctrl-F5) to update contents...

Re: Need translators to evaluate transifex.net

Quote:

Originally Posted by mehdiE (Post 356739)

Most of those strings are just 'fuzzy', but some are really missing (e.g. "Quit", "Back", and some more).

Re: Need translators to evaluate transifex.net

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitcrusher (Post 356729)

sign me up for Danish translations with the username bitcrusher :)

One step ahead of you. At 100%, how about waiting till I upload so you can fix my Danish? :)

Re: Need translators to evaluate transifex.net

Quote:

Originally Posted by conny (Post 356732)

Could you paste the file here? Maybe we can see what's wrong?

here is translated file

Code:

# SOME DESCRIPTIVE TITLE.

# Copyright (C) YEAR THE PACKAGE'S COPYRIGHT HOLDER

# This file is distributed under the same license as the PACKAGE package.

# FIRST AUTHOR <EMAIL@ADDRESS>, YEAR.

#

#, fuzzy

msgid ""

msgstr ""

"Project-Id-Version: PACKAGE VERSION\n"

"Report-Msgid-Bugs-To: \n"

"POT-Creation-Date: 2009-10-23 17:39+0200\n"

"PO-Revision-Date: YEAR-MO-DA HO:MI+ZONE\n"

"Last-Translator: kayle.sk <webmaster@kayle.sk>\n"

"Language-Team: LANGUAGE <LL@li.org>\n"

"MIME-Version: 1.0\n"

"Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8\n"

"Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit\n"



#. ACTIONS

#. TODO: Write a function, which takes GtkActions that contain markup code and that creates the correct widgets

#: ../src/interface.c:410 ../src/interface.c:509 ../src/interface.c:547

msgid "Bold"

msgstr "Tučné"



#: ../src/interface.c:411

msgid "Bullets"

msgstr "Odrážky"



#: ../src/interface.c:412

msgid "Decrease Indent"

msgstr "Zmenšiť odsadenie"



#: ../src/interface.c:413

msgid "Delete Note"

msgstr "Zmazať poznámku"



#: ../src/interface.c:414 ../src/interface.c:513 ../src/interface.c:551

msgid "Fixed Width"

msgstr "Pevná šírka"



#: ../src/interface.c:415 ../src/interface.c:512 ../src/interface.c:550

msgid "Highlight"

msgstr "Zvýrazniť"



#: ../src/interface.c:416

msgid "Increase Indent"

msgstr "Zväčšiť odsadenie"



#: ../src/interface.c:417

msgid "Link"

msgstr "Odkaz"



#: ../src/interface.c:418 ../src/search_window.c:356

msgid "New Note"

msgstr "Nová poznámka"



#: ../src/interface.c:419

msgid "Open Note"

msgstr "Otvoriť poznámku"



#: ../src/interface.c:420 ../src/settings_window.c:287

msgid "Settings"

msgstr "Nastavenia"



#: ../src/interface.c:421

msgid "Close All Notes"

msgstr "Zavrieť všetky poznámky"



#: ../src/interface.c:422 ../src/interface.c:510 ../src/interface.c:548

msgid "Italic"

msgstr "Kurzíva"



#: ../src/interface.c:423 ../src/interface.c:511 ../src/interface.c:549

msgid "Strikeout"

msgstr "Preškrtnuté"



#: ../src/interface.c:424

msgid "Style"

msgstr "Štýl"



#: ../src/interface.c:425

msgid "Zoom In"

msgstr "Priblížiť"



#: ../src/interface.c:426

msgid "Zoom Out"

msgstr "Oddialiť"



#: ../src/interface.c:427

msgid "Find In Note"

msgstr "Násť v poznámke"



#. TODO: Use an enum instead of 0 to 3

#: ../src/interface.c:429 ../src/interface.c:514 ../src/interface.c:552

msgid "Small"

msgstr "Malé"



#: ../src/interface.c:430

msgid "Normal"

msgstr "Normálne"



#: ../src/interface.c:431 ../src/interface.c:515 ../src/interface.c:553

msgid "Large"

msgstr "Veľké"



#: ../src/interface.c:432 ../src/interface.c:516 ../src/interface.c:554

msgid "Huge"

msgstr "Obrovské"



#: ../src/interface.c:605

msgid "Text Style"

msgstr "Štýl textu"



#. TODO: Maybe we can use one intance of the toolbar for all windows.

#.

#. HildonProgram *prg = hildon_program_get_instance();

#. if (hildon_program_get_common_toolbar(prg) == NULL) {

#. g_printerr("ADD THE TOOLBAR \n");

#. hildon_program_set_common_toolbar(prg, toolbar);

#. }

#.

#. FIND TOOL BAR

#: ../src/interface.c:678 ../src/search_window.c:398

msgid "Search:"

msgstr "Hľadať:"



#: ../src/search_window.c:352

msgid "Search All Notes"

msgstr "Hľadať vo všetkých poznámkach"



#. Add sort filters

#: ../src/search_window.c:368

msgid "Sort By Title"

msgstr "Triediť podľa názvu"



#: ../src/search_window.c:369

msgid "Sort By Date"

msgstr "Triediť podľa dátumu"



#: ../src/search_window.c:471

msgid "Note"

msgstr "Poznámka"



#: ../src/search_window.c:488

msgid "Last Changed"

msgstr "Posledná zmena"



#: ../src/callbacks.c:587

msgid "Really delete this note?"

msgstr "Naozaj zmazať túto poznamku?"



#: ../src/callbacks.c:589

msgid "If you delete a note it is permanently lost."

msgstr "Ak ju zmažete bude nenávratne preč."



#: ../src/note.c:376

#, c-format

msgid "New Note %i"

msgstr "Nová poznámka %i"



#: ../src/note.c:379

msgid "Describe your new note here."

msgstr "Napíšte Vašu poznámku sem."



#: ../src/settings_window.c:106

msgid "Scrollbar Size"

msgstr "Veľkosť posuvníka"



#: ../src/settings_window.c:111

msgid "Thin"

msgstr "Úzky"



#: ../src/settings_window.c:115

msgid "Thick"

msgstr "Široký"



#: ../src/settings_window.c:126

msgid "On Startup"

msgstr "Pri štarte"



#: ../src/settings_window.c:144 ../src/settings_window.c:149

msgid "Show Note"

msgstr "Zobraziť poznámku"



#: ../src/settings_window.c:145 ../src/settings_window.c:150

msgid "Show Search"

msgstr "Ukáž hľadanie"



#: ../src/settings_window.c:168 ../src/settings_window.c:170

msgid "Use Custom Colors"

msgstr "Použiť vlastné farby"



#: ../src/settings_window.c:184

msgid "Text"

msgstr "Text"



#: ../src/settings_window.c:198

msgid "Background"

msgstr "Pozadie"



#: ../src/settings_window.c:212

msgid "Links"

msgstr "Odkazy"

Re: Need translators to evaluate transifex.net

Add user mve for Finnish language.

Re: Need translators to evaluate transifex.net

Quote:

Originally Posted by kayle.sk (Post 356753)

here is translated file

I get the following:

Code:

conny@bender2:~/Desktop$ msgfmt -c sk.po 

msgfmt: (null): warning: PO file header fuzzy

                warning: older versions of msgfmt will give an error on this

sk.po:8: some header fields still have the initial default value

I guess if you fix those it should work. Hopefully ;)

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mve (Post 356755)

Add user mve for Finnish language.

You're in! Thank you :)

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OK, off the top of my head reaction, transifex is nice but the advantage pootle has is that you can edit po files in a very newbie friendly web interface. If there is one on transifex I'm too dense to have found it. I suspect a lot of new users would have to have their hands held through for example getting poedit and importing a pot file and uploading a .po file and so on, without a web editing function the potential for confusion is going to be high.

Plus, what does locking do? Other than indicating that someone is working on a language?

EDIT: My density is confirmed. I found the online edit function. Where's my dunce cap?

Re: Need translators to evaluate transifex.net

Here we go:
Username: ferwakeup

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Quote:

Originally Posted by conny (Post 356759)

You're in! Thank you :)

There is probably error in one string. Should 'Foreward' be 'Forward' in english language?

For some reason I needed to use web edit functionality 3 times before all strings were translated. And in first try it didn' save my translation at all and changing page probably reseted fuzzy check boxes. I did this all on N900.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by develofer (Post 356773)

Here we go:
Username: ferwakeup

Thank you, you're added :)

Re: Need translators to evaluate transifex.net

Quote:

Originally Posted by mve (Post 356778)

There is probably error in one string. Should 'Foreward' be 'Forward' in english language?

Yes, that's my bad. I'll fix it soon!

Quote:

Originally Posted by mve (Post 356778)

For some reason I needed to use web edit functionality 3 times before all strings were translated. And in first try it didn' save my translation at all and changing page probably reseted fuzzy check boxes. I did this all on N900.

Not good, I'll go trough this thread in a couple of days again and collect all the feed back.

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Originally Posted by JosefA (Post 356763)

EDIT: My density is confirmed. I found the online edit function. Where's my dunce cap?

Glad you found it :) I was worried that I have to write a long post about which buttons to press ;)

Re: Need translators to evaluate transifex.net

Quote:

Originally Posted by JosefA (Post 356752)

One step ahead of you. At 100%, how about waiting till I upload so you can fix my Danish? :)

Thats a deal :)

Glad to see other Danes have fallen for N900. I called and ordered mine two days ago and was told I was one of the first to order it, which is a bit sad considering its due to be released in a weeks time.

Re: Need translators to evaluate transifex.net

@Conny:

You can add danielronde for dutch translations...

Re: Need translators to evaluate transifex.net

JosefA, I've just altered a few things in the Danish translation, but nothing big as you had done most of it already ;)