What would you realistically like to see in the N920?
 

Following tradition I'd like to start thread for those waiting for new device :)

What we know:

- Maemo 6 with Qt based user interface
- Probably the same - or very similar - CPU and GPU
- Probably multitouch capacitive screen - the same size

Overall - hardware will be quite similar to N900 with exception of screen.

So what could be added? My takes:

- out of the box all Bluetooth profiles
- out of the box working FM radio
- out of the box USB host mode (at least OTG); if that mean second USB port due to frakked up standards - let it be
- I think it is time for > 5Mpx camera - 8 at least or make existing 5Mpx really, really good; now it may be good comparing to other phones but comparing to even p&s cameras it is crap
- make it thinner OR put bigger battery; I understand both things are mutually exclusive and only one of things can happen but current situation is far from perfection - personally prefer thinner device
- full-size kickstand

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I think it'll be thinner and will do away with the full keyboard, and market itself as more of a phone. I think (and hope :p) it'll be cheaper and marketed more as something for your everyday user rather than just IT professionals.

My crystal ball's gone blank now.

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I, for one, simply accept whatever the Overlords at Nokia end up deciding for us mere consumers, waste my breath for my personal use and make my personal decision when the time arrives... ;)

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Surley most of the people on here buying this are getting it because in not a full on phone, if you move it more towards a proper phone it will lose it appeal to most users.

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Slightly bigger keys, digital compass, hdmi output(mini connector!) Better battery

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maemo 6 and usb host and improved battery time...nothing else.

Do not remove the keyboard

over and out

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- Bigger keyboard, 4 rows would be better
- Faster CPU, 1G maybe
- 512 MB of RAM
- 8 MP camera
- Fully portrait supported
- Thinner (would prefer below 14mm)
- Stronger battery, at least 1500 mAh
- More hardware key (at least 3 key for answer, end the call and home key)
- More polished UI
- Make it look more sexy

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Only thing that could be better is the battery. Apart from that, I have no problems with the hardware at all.

Another line of keys on the keyboard might be nice too.

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* Compass
* USB host capable
* Stylus capable
* Slightly larger screen
* HDMI or displayport output
* transflective (ie sunlight-viewable) display

Possibly:
* four-row keyboard
* xenon flash
* Better stand
* A couple external buttons

An N900 with those additional (or retained) features would meet my needs (Period.) and i would buy one and then buy another to replace it when necessary ad infinitum, and not need a laptop.

However, i suspect it will get few of those, and actually be inferior to N900 by my criteria.

Anyone asking for a faster processor clearly never unplugs their NIT. :P

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I agree the most annoying thing is the apalling battery life on the N900 , for me almost enough reason to return the phone. how much more can i opptimize the device it still sucks ..otherwise i would be quite happy .
i own i Kindle 2 and amazon released a software update to increase battery life by almost 70 % . i dont think nokia will be able to do that .)

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USB host including USB audio, number row on the keyboard, thinner, and an OLED screen.

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When was this announced? At the Summit, Nokia said the lead Harmattan device would have a capacitive multitouch display.

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Yeah, not unless you want an e-ink display on your phone. :D The problem is people are demanding faster processors and bigger displays, and battery tech isn't improving as fast. You can't have your cake and eat it, too.

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Snapdragon, Xenon, slimmer, less bugs at launch, Compass, Trackball, better email client. Not sure whether I prefer Cap or Res screen, but I wouldn't change the resolution or colour depth.
Until then, I think I'll hold off on the N900 - the device doesn't seem to know which market it's aiming for, and also Nokia's silly insistence that the N900 is the 4th step of 5, and that it's a web device not a smartphone, is making people think that Maemo 5 is just a temporary stepping stone.

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The mass public would all want a slim device with trendy on-screen kb. Also capasitive screen becouse it "feels good man".

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If next device got harmattan i'm 99% sure we see capacitive with it. I wouldn't really mind at all, but that is as long as it's as easy to use example small youtube icons using fingers as it's now with N900(remember to calibrate the screen using fingers).
I think the device will be qwertyless, but i would still like too see qwerty. 3.7inch screen(wouldnt surprise to see oled here) and sure it will be thinner qwerty or not. Same hw + 8mp camera.

All that with the qwerty and i'm more than happy.

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i would like to see the keyboard remain and quad band WCDMA added. A faster processor and more RAM would be great. Four rows on the keyboard would be nice but not necessary.

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Or did they say that Harmattan software supports multitouch? I don't remember anymore, but generally hw wasn't a topic there.

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We're talking a year out for the next version as an estimate? Just wondering what sort of HW advances may be a possible offering (battery, LED, USB 3.0) and if Nokia would/could include them.

...and if more prospective n900 buyers may just wait knowing another new model with maemo 6 is coming out. (myself included).

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I would like something more like the N810 with the performance of the 900, i.e. a large screen version of the 900 with larger/better keyboard. Switch out the analogue video for mini HDMI too.

I'd also like proper USB OTG host mode, and nifty stuff like the compass and six-axis accelerometers, then I'll be happy.

Ok, add dual-band wifi, then I'd be happier. Perhaps a second microSDHC slot, is that too much to ask? How about a micro trackball, they're pretty cool!

And maybe inductive charging option. Am I asking too much yet?

Perhaps the ability to slide back the IR filter on the camera for night-vision shots and some IR LEDs for night-vision illumination.

Backlit keyboard too. And waterproof down to 50m so you could use it when scuba diving. And put in some swiss-army-knife attachments to make it a general purpose toolkit :D

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Same general footprint & design of N900, but:

1. Call, Home and End/Back buttons on the right- looks like plenty of room there.

2. Micro SD slot accessible without removing the delicate cover- card is hot swappable, but what is the point based on the current location?

3. Better freakin' GPRS and wifi radios.

4. USB host

5. Bigger battery option kit (battery and cover).

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I want:

4.5" 800x480 to 1280x720 touchscreen

Dedicated transport controls

A portrait sliding T9 keypad that can be rotated into landscape mode

Adobe Air support

Dpad

Automatic screen rotation

12+ MP camera with optical zoom and Carl Zeiss optics and xenon plus LED flash

720p multiformat video capture

Full video editing suite with format conversion and resolution reduction

RCA and HDMI out

1GB Physical RAM plus an extra 1GB virtual RAM

1+GHz ARM core with dedicated GPU

1800mAh battery

Physical phone and menu buttons

THIS form factor, shown at the bottom of the page

Modular keypads that allow you to choose T9 or QWERTY

Support for MySpace (which was promised eons ago)

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But PLEASE with imaging sensors from year 2015+ or something. Today's 12+MP sensors in the form factor thats likely to be build in (i.e. max point&shoot form factor) are quite pointless. Today's 8MP(+) sensors in that form factor produce an euqally or better amount of noise (and detail) (viewed fullscreen on the same device), while keeping power consumption and processing times as well as used disk space lower.

Don't do the MP-Race Nokia!

Conclusion: I want max. 8 MP ;)

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I'd like to see basically the N800 with the following modifications, all intended to make a pocketable, stylus-oriented, mobile computer/media player:

Change to microSD (2 of them)
Slightly larger screen, still 800 x 480, but smaller form factor
USB OTG without special connectors
Get rid of the camera
No keyboard, no cell connectivity, no phone
Lower price, lighter weight, more power, better throughput to the screen

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keeping the size as it is,

-lighter weight
-xenon flash, LED flash (doubling as video light), better camera, higher megapixel count
-4 row keyboard
-shoulder (trigger) buttons like on a console joypad or Nintendo DS
-better processor/gpu without using up more battery power
-more RAM
-even more storage space, and support for more than 1 SD card at a time (perhaps even the rumoured 1TB ones in the works, probably a while away)
-USB, such as plugging in an external harddrive or a hub
-more than 1 SIM card supported at a time, with options to use 1 SIM for data and another for making calls, or 1 for both and alternating between both, or even better, both are active concurrently. Useful for those with 2 phones, or the possibility of easily switching between an international SIM for travellers.
-digital compass

the unrealistic wants:
-run every video file known smoothly and at maximum (huge) resolutions and via TV out, eg run DVD and Blu Ray files with no need for conversion (when there's no time).
-a smaller (tiny) battery that lasts 30 days without a recharge (or more) with constant heavy use, all connections on even at their weakest levels :D

I'm not including some expected things like:
-portrait mode support
-emulation support such as MAME (hopefully this is coming).

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The thread asked what I wanted. And Nokia has a long history of imaging prowess in mobiles. Look at the N90 to N73 to N82 to N86 for image quality improving as well as megapixel rating. This ain't HTC.

Nokia will set the image quality standard again in Q4 2010 with a 12 MP sensor and ateelar optics. They've even partnered with Kodak, possibly for processing algorithms. Nokia has never been in any megapixel war. Its always been about quality. CHeck history and you'll see what I mean.

So for ME, who will usually crop out small parts of an image, 12 megapixels is perfct for now. YMMV.

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My fault - I always mess those two up.

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1. Bigger screen
2. Bigger battery
3. Four row keyboard

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This might sound weird, but I wish it was the same dimension but slightly heavier...like the E90. That's because when I place it on a table to type an email or SMS, it moves! And I hate that!!!

8mp or 12mp camera
2gb RAM
64gb internal storage, with 32gb or 64gb micro sdhc card support
Flawless OVI Suite integration
OVI Store with no less than 50,000 apps with Maemo support

More later......

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... the hardware keyboard vanish. :D

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Yeah, I can't really see these series of devices being more phone than tablet. Only because they were originally developed to be internet tablets and have only recently had a phone slapped on top.

I think it's unlikely Nokia will make a phone before tablet with Maemo 6 unless they branch out to another series of devices.

Personally I haven't tried out Maemo just yet but with all the Linuxness it might not be too bad of a phone in the sense of customisation and opensourcness! But I couldn't imagine more of the hardcore Linux enthusiasts wanting more of a phone than a tablet with hardware keyboard etc..

However if they do make a series of phones with Maemo 6 I wouldn't really see it as a bad thing (aslong as they had portrait!) A great competitor to Android, seeing as that's a layer of java on top where as Maemo isn't? :confused:

Also with a wide range of phones running the Maemo 6 platform, more affordable and smaller phones for the majority, I'm sure that Maemo could grow to be something great with the software being developed, the customisation available for the user.

But I don't see Maemo getting as popular as it could with it only on internet tablet phones like the N900 as not every one can afford one, find them too big and so on.

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I hope the screen is at least as large as the Droid, and I hope the keyboard is 4 rows like the Droid. And I hope GPS works without an internet connection. And I'd like to see a great turn-by-turn nav application.

USB host mode and further improvements to the camaera would be great too, but my top priorities are the items I mentioned earlier.

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Get it out and delivered to my hand by Christmas 2009 :o . If not, a tracking number before new year 2010 is acceptable.

bun

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My votes:

- HDMI output
- Bluetooth HID support out of the box (kb/mouse)
- Bigger battery (I think 1800mah would be perfect)
- Slightly bigger device would suit me (though probably not most); bigger kb, slightly bigger screen, couple hardware buttons to bring up the task switcher / home screen
- Simultaneous 802.11/bluetooth support (it can be done)
- 512mb rootfs / 512mb ram
- SD instead of microSD
- Keep the resistive touchscreen! Multitouch/capacitive is for bored yuppies. :p
- Cradle connector, offering HDMI output, charging, audio in/out, USB host... imagine dropping it in a cradle with an LCD screen, keyboard and mouse set up. It would be totally adequate as an HTPC, kitchen computer, alarm clock, etc.
- A pony would be nice, too. :p

Ok, and the following is probably not even remotely realistic, but imagine running all the cooling conduits to the docking connector, so while the phone is docked, it can upclock the processor to 1+ghz, and dump excess heat into the cradle (which has a heat sink).

That would make it a fairly powerful laptop, perfect for travelling (cradle could be small.. kept at the hotel). Or, go to work, drop it in a cradle, and get a full-size screen / kb / mouse. Get home, drop it in a cradle.. watch some movies. Bluetooth in some game controllers, and play some games. In the car... cradle. GPS navigate, listen to music, etc.

Ok, I'm dreamin. :)

*EDIT* at the risk of almost going offtopic here.. :p A remote heat sink would actually be pretty easy to implement with a peltier device; even though the metal-metal contact wouldn't be great, a 5mm x 1cm pad could probably transfer out enough heat from inside the device if it was cooled to 30C below ambient with a peltier device. If it needs to remove 5W, the unit would draw, say, 20W, but even that is still around laptop territory. Point is, this could totally work. :)

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if we get 3 out of 5 of these i'll be happy

-850 mhz 3G
-usb host
-better battery life
-capacitive multi-touch screen
-8mp camera

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More RAM
More Apps
Multitouch RESISTIVE screen (there is such thing and it's very accurate + responsive)
Wireless N
HD rear camera (dont't care about more MP.. but better lens that can shoot video with high fps and hd)..
A little bit of a faster cpu... Cortex A9?

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o 512MB NAND is available today, so go for it.
o Either get rid of the GPS, or use a proper one (MTK or SiRF Star III). As it is now it's a low-quality add-on which just takes up space.
o Proper, old-fashioned charging plug. A lot of people whined about 'missing USB charging' in the past, and look where that got us.
o The above will allow USB OTG and USB host mode working again.
o External, full-size SD slot. Get rid of the internal micro-SD slot, it's useless.
That's about it. Optional, if possible:
o If Wireless N (full 2.5GHz+5GHz) becomes possible, go for it
o If 512MB RAM becomes possible, go for it
o If there's any spare room: An additional button somewhere (now we find ourself a bit short too often).

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3g connectivity for those of us forced to use at&t.
hdmi out
usb host support
multi touch resistive screen
more internal storage
faster processor
more ram
stronger battery
biometric security

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That ain't gonna happen if they want to sell their devices in Europe.

External, yes. But I see no reason not to keep the micro SDHC slot - it saves a huge amount space and works just like its big-format brother. Granted, you can cram more things on a full-sized SD, but since N900 does not support SDIO (or at least it seems that way), there is really no advantage.