allbum art appearing in photos
 

i added a bunch of songs with album art, now when i open photos its full of the album art images.

is it just me?

and the album art dont even show up in the player

Re: allbum art appearing in photos
 

yeah i have noticed this too
the music player only seens to recogniswe album art that has been embeddded into the mp3 id tag (i do this using media monkey on windows,not found a way for mac yet) but becuase the album arts are norfmal jpeg pictures they also show up in the photo gallery

still locking for a way maybe there is a file format extension spedcific to album argt that only the media player would recognise

Re: allbum art appearing in photos
 

I'm guessing this would be something you'd want to change in Tracker's config? I haven't looked into it, but I think that might help you.

Re: allbum art appearing in photos
 

ye this is very annoying. probley the most annoying thing about the n900

Re: allbum art appearing in photos
 

Do you happen to have files such as folder.jpg or such? If you have purchased the tracks online, these kind of album art pictures may have come along your download.

Re: allbum art appearing in photos
 

If you put it in a directory that's indexed by tracker, it has to show up with all the other image files. If you don't want this, just put it somewhere else. What's the problem?

Re: allbum art appearing in photos
 

The problem is that it is not intuitive...

Took me a while also to understand why this was happening. I added my mp3 and then suddenly the art work was in my picture app?

There should be a "default folder" for it in settings so it would just pick up the pictures from this folder. And yes, I know about showing the standard folder for camera I just think it is more polished this way.

Re: allbum art appearing in photos
 

If you delete them from the photos gallery, they will still be in the media player ;)

Re: allbum art appearing in photos
 

First, I think some people might even want to see all of their image files in the image viewer and complain if it was different.

But it turns out from various threads in this forum hat there is a common theme: Some users just don't want all media on their N900 indexed by tracker. (Some want to prevent certain videos from showing in the media player, you don't want "album art" you store as separate files in the image viewer...)

They all can be solved by configuring tracker, but there's no UI to do this.
So I think this is what we need. A UI for tracker. It must not tell users that it's a UI for tracker, because they won't know what tracker is and what is mean by "exclude from indexing". It should refer to media player and image viewer and give some hints like "add directories you want to hide from meida player here".
(An advanced settings dialog should then allow to control all aspects of tracker.)

Re: allbum art appearing in photos
 

Agreed. :)

Re: allbum art appearing in photos
 

The problem is unless tracker has a specific per file rule then then your music won't be indexed.

Re: allbum art appearing in photos
 

This would be nice indeed.

Re: allbum art appearing in photos
 

Stop. I'm confused now.

Just for me to understand the facts... Is the follwing correct?

• The Maemo Media Player only interprets what's correctly embedded in the MP3 itself as album art. It doesn't interpret external files as album art and show them during music playback.
• You copy JPEGs to the N900 that are interpreted by other players as album art. The music you copy does not have the album art embedded inside the MP3.
• You copy JPEGs and MP3s to the same folder on the N900.
• The image viewer shows these JPEGs as it show any other image file. The Media Player only plays the music and shows a generic symbol.

Is that it? Or did I get it wrong again?

Re: allbum art appearing in photos
 

I believe yes, the media player only interprets what's correctly embedded in the mp3 so those folder.jpgs or cover.jpgs are what's being picked up by tracker and placed into images. However, (I haven't looked at tracker's config yet) if you tell it not to scan the music directory then it won't pick up the media files when they're added. Yes, you could move the album art to another folder and not have that indexed but once another media player arrives and uses those images, what now.

Re: allbum art appearing in photos
 

So basically what you do is you copy pictures to the N900 that serve no purpose there and annoy you? - Why?

From my point of view,. what Maemo 5 does is correct. Album art goes into the MP3 file and is read from there. JPEG-files are just that: images... and treated as such.

The more I think of it, the more I believe any other way ot treat it would be a bug. ;)

Re: allbum art appearing in photos
 

Because if you want to use another media player that does use those .jpgs for cover art (as the N900 seems to be hit and miss for me. Two albums have no cover art despite having the same tagging scheme and versions as all the other album art) then you won't have cover art in that program. You could then argue then disable tracking for that folder but what if you want the default media player to still pick it up?

The best solution would just be to have tracker be configurable for what folders it scans and what it should include or not include when scanning those folders.

Re: allbum art appearing in photos
 

hey z3phyr,
care to tell us which specific folders and filenames the pictures are coming from?
and also which folder you are storing your mp3 files in

Re: allbum art appearing in photos
 

I use Simple Tagger for mac. It's really really crappy, but I found a way that works well without screwing up my mp3:s, so as long as I do staff the same way every time, it is perfect for my needs. I did have it screw up an album once, but I had a backup.

Re: allbum art appearing in photos
 

Don't know much about what been open sourced, but an app, much like hermes would be awesome for collecting album art...

Re: allbum art appearing in photos
 

Before we get too carried away with making a UI for the tracker, am I alone in feeling that the tracker is fundamentally misguided?

Why is there a standalone media indexing service on my portable device when specifying a couple of library directories on a per-application basis would do just as well? In fact I would prefer this behavior. I'm not saying that indexing your media is bad, but the applications themselves can do that if required.

Expecting album art to be embedded in your media files establishes a terrible precedent - not only is it misguided from a data association perspective, but it also forces you to store the same image on your device twelve times. In addition, it precludes support for formats which do not allow the use of ID3 tags (ogg).

Re: allbum art appearing in photos
 

Hi, if there is something you suspect it's a bug please file it at http://bugs.maemo.org

At least there is http://maemo.org/packages/view/googl...rt-downloader/ in Extras-devel, a very rough repository for development that we don't recommend to end users. Feel free to contact the developer to know if he needs testers and whether he has plans to push it to Extras.

Re: allbum art appearing in photos
 

the N900 does recognise jpegs, and not only embedded tags

it creates ".mediaartlocal"-folders in which it stores album art. And these files also appear in photos, which is pure nonsense!

I think it copies album art tags from the mp3-tags to the mediaartlocal-folder.

any way to fix this in a smart way?

Re: allbum art appearing in photos
 

The tracker recognizes cover.jpg, but in some cases I've had the tracker pick out a jpg file (if cover.jpg doesn't exist) in the same folder (seemingly at random?) and associate it with the songs in the same folder that have no embedded art. Invariably it picks the backcover (probably an alphabetical selection) but the tricky thing is to remove the album and break the association. If I delete the folder and move in a new in a different location on the storage, it still associates the old picture with the album. There must be somewhere it is saving these thumbnails.

The solution most will prefer is to embed album art (the freeware mp3tag makes it easy to download and embed album art) however I don't like having unnecessary multiple copies inflating the music files, as well as the problem of non-ID3 tag formats.

Please look at this link for more info:
http://live.gnome.org/MediaArtStorag...ding_media_art