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Is it just me or is the new format for ITT really hard to read and navigate around...

I mean I like the colors, but its killing my eyes!

any others out there concur with me?

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I just added a font size selector at the upper right of the main page. That should help.

Thanks for the feedback.

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I might just need to get used to it...

but I certainly appreciate all the effort you've put into the site.

Here's to a happy new year and to the new purported younger brother to the 770 coming out soon!

;)

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Thanks. I actually got a comment that the fonts of the first version earlier tonight was quite hard to read on the N770. Since then, I made the orange shade lighter, and just a few minutes ago, added the font size selector at the main page. It looks great now on the N770, at the largest font size.

Thanks, happy new year to you too!

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Looks great in Firefox on my desktop; much better than the old style. Thanks!

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I'm finding it a bit difficult also. I think the forum list needs horizontal rules (lines) between messages otherwise it looks one big mass of text without structure (particularly so on the "New Posts" list).

Likewise within a thread each message needs to have shading or rules applied to seperate the poster details, subject and body text.

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Strange bug in Firefox 2 on Windows - the menus for Search, Quick Links, Thread Tools etc are appearing way over to the right and nowhere near where they should be.

IE7 is similar, however Display Modes doesn't produce a menu at all in IE7.

This forum has the menus appearing where I would expect them to appear (and Display Mode is working in IE7 in the TiVo forum).

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Same for me, more structure that separates sections surely would ease the reading experience (mostly use the site on Linux/KDE/Konqueror). Colour in general are O.K. for me.

Bye, and thanks for the great site, makes my 770 much more useful to me.

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:( OK, after the long version of this reply got lost in the bowels of the internet, i'll try again with a shorter version, skipping all the friendliness in between :)

It is a proven fact that the human eye can read black on white better than white on black. This, of course, also applies to any other bright/dark combination. I find myself hitting Ctrl+A to get the text blue on white for better reading when I get to a site with black background. - Also, orange as a text color is definitely courageous. :)

The text is too small. Having the 3 resize-buttons doenst change this, as the chosen size doesn't apply to all parts of the site and they only double a function thats built into the brwoser, anyway.

As said before, the forum needs a lot of structure. I'm lost in the soup of nicknames, headings, links, short forum entries... I couldn't even find the text input boxes for username/password and had to TAB to put my cursor in one of them.

To be quite honest: I don't like it. Sorry to say this. - Of course, it doesn't matter as this site is still by far the best source of information for the 770/800 and no design will keep me from visiting it several times a day. :)

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I'm with benny on the dark background religious issue.

Apart from that I have the following usability requests :

- the font size selector on the main page doesn't seem to apply to the forums, or is it just me ?

- on pages listing topics or threads, it is much harder than before to see which ones have new posts in them (bold or plain orange vs different shades of blue)

- in front of each listed thread are two large, static (non-clickable) icons (which are mostly eye-candy to me). In contrast, the incredibly useful "go to first post" is an almost invisible blue arrow that's quite difficult to click on, especially from the tablet... could you please make it bigger ? :-)

PS : about those "eye candy" icons... I can't see any difference between those for "Hot thread with new posts" and "Hot thread with no new posts", is there supposed to be one ?

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I am sorry to quote that, too, but I came to the same conclusions about graphics. And also to the last sentence :D

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Keep the suggestions coming! I am slowly trig to do something about all your concerns.

Thanks.

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First of all, Reggie, the thumbs up is for you. You have done something very special for many, many of us by having this site up. We all thank you heartily for that.

As far as colors, I'm voting for the black or dark brown text on a very light brown background.

Gene

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Don't like the style at all. Hard to read. I come here to find info, not to be wowed with graphics. It is especially harder to read content on the Nokia 770.

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I like the new design very much. I guess that's partly because I've been a fan for ages of light text on a dark blackground. But also - for example - I really like the added prominence that the active forum topics now have on the home page.

- Neil

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my old eyes can not find the input cells in the new site design

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Input cells?

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if i'm on optimized view on 770, all the textarea input boxes don't work.

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Is there still a way to view this in the PDA format? The old version had a "switch" at the bottom of the page...

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On the page listing the forums, it's hard to tell which forums have new posts.
The color difference between those blocks is too subtle.

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Could you change the colours of the square buttons that indicate new messages?

And by "change" I mean: Make them more distinctive from each other.

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After using ITT forum for a few days after this design change, I mush say that I don't like bright text on dark background at all. My eyes hurt reading it. Will there be any way to make colors at least configurable?

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Maybe we need a "negative" style :)

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I feel exactly the same Serge, my initial enthusiasm for the new layout colour scheme is waning precisely because its quickly tiring on the eyes. (With or without my reading glasses) :)

Especially dislike the emotive icons, (And user avatars) where they have white borders etc...

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I think we are a majority in this. Also, the demise of the PDA skin makes it very painful to browse ITT from the tablet on a slow cellular link.

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The site looks nice, but for reading I prefer the style we used to have here.

The colour is better on the eyes, and I like the poster information to the side rather than accross the posts making the flow of reading less easy.

As far as I am aware vBulletin will let you have multiple skins installed and allow the user to select. So how about the old skin being included as well please? Or even the default vBulletin skin would be fine.

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I totally second that, should be the best option available :)

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There are now three forum skins you can choose from:

Dark - the default theme
Classic - the blue and white classic theme
Mobile - mobile optimized theme

You can select the theme at the bottom left of any forum page.

Thanks.

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That is great. Thank you!

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I have some problems when using the 'New posts' function. As others have mentioned, there's the colour problem. With the new skins (I haven't tried yet), I guess that's fixed. The other problem (which was there in the past too I guess) is that if I get, say, 3 pages of new posts, then if I take a brake before I'm finished it will all have gone away when I finally click on page 3 (or even 2). It would be easier if I could simply get all threads with new postings in one, long page which I could read off and on without risking losing stuff just because of a coffee break.

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Thanks Reggie !