Trouble connecting at USB 2.0 speeds
 

I have been told that the whole "your device is not connected to a USB 2.0 capable port" is just something to be ignored, but I am really getting slow transfer rates - 23 minutes to copy a 1.2 GB file (DVD rip) - unless that is an acceptable rate? I wouldn't think so.

Is there anything I can do to correct this "non USB 2.0 port detected" problem? I mean, on the N900 end of things. I get good transfers from other things, like USB HDD's and SD card readers - I've never been warned or had throughput problems in the past.

Thanks for any help.

Re: USB 2.0 really not working
 

have you tried it on another computer

Re: USB 2.0 really not working
 

Ok, I've solved it. It was necessary to install the Nokia PC Suite (which is a really sloppy bit of kit, if you ask me).

On connecting with the suite, disconnecting, and reconnecting, Windoze went though a bit of song and dance with the task bar balloons, and then said everything was A-OK. And the 1.2GB file that I just transferred in about 20 minutes, I transferred again in under two minutes.

I'm surprised something like this doesn't get more talk around here. Unless everybody is installing the Nokia suite as a matter of course? I didn't even know where to get the suite - I had to Google for it - and I wasn't even looking for it, I was looking for USB2 drivers, but all I found of interest was the suite, so I decided to give it a try. Glad I did!

Re: USB 2.0 really not working
 

No, the problem is on your end. I never installed the PC suite and I get full USB 2.0 speeds to my N900.

Windows pops up that message when it detects a USB 2.0 device plugged into a USB 1.1 port, which means your drivers aren't set up properly or your port is screwed up in some way.

Re: USB 2.0 really not working
 

Ah, good catch. PC Suite installs the proper driver for USB connection to Nokia devcies. Sorry I forgot previously-- just used to having PC Suite installed.

I was randomly receiving that message, usually if I tried to access the device too soon after connecting it to the PC.

Re: USB 2.0 really not working
 

What is your OS? Mine is WinXP. Maybe you are on Win 7, or some OS with a more robust set of drivers, perhaps?

Re: USB 2.0 really not working
 

I have winXP.

I noticed if the N900 is on then plug into the winXP, everything works fine.

However, if the N900 is off, plug it in, the winXP will do the dance and singing and will also ends up with error mess "There is a problem with installation of the new hardware...."

And upon terminating from the USB, same issue. The winXP would recommend click "now it is safe to unplug USB...", but if I do that, N900 turned into an 'irritating mode', unpredictable, since then, I just unplug the USB without clicking the "it is now safe to..." message.


bun

Re: USB 2.0 really not working
 

Vista. But I've plugged into XP and had no problem. With the N900 in Mass Storage mode you definitely don't need any to get full speed.

Re: USB 2.0 really not working
 

Well, I'd have to disagree with that last statement, from personal experience.

The XP box you plugged in to, did it have the Nokia suite installed? Also I'm wondering if any files are added to the N900 upon first connecting to a comp with a properly-installed set of USB2 drivers suited for the N900? Or is that too much of a stretch.

Anyway, my USB ports are ALL 2.0, and as I've said, I never had config problems in the past, been using the same ports since the day I got the PC and always ran full 2.0 speed except for the N900 without Nokia Suite.

Re: USB 2.0 really not working
 

Mine has done that about 25% of the time I plug it in, on various computers, Windows and Linux. If it connects as USB 1.1 just unplug and re-plug and it'll almost always negotiate as USB 2.0 the second time around. It hasn't happened to me yet in PR1.1 but I've only plugged in USB a couple times since upgrading.

Also, if you have a USB 1.0 device (like keyboard, mouse, printer) on the USB hub it could sometimes force all devices on that hub to go slow.

Re: USB 2.0 really not working
 

Yup, no pc suite here, don't even have it installed anymore.

It's only use is for thethering but I'll take my time someday to configure that without pc suite.

Bye bye pc suite:rolleyes:

Re: USB 2.0 really not working
 

But if it installs drivers, mightn't they stay after an uninstall of the suite?

Re: USB 2.0 really not working
 

I have to do the traditional format pretty soon and I'll let you know. SP3 should have the drivers built in as the hardware used is pretty generic.

Re: Trouble connecting at USB 2.0 speeds
 

PC Suite is pretty handy if you have a Symbian device :) But I doubt it's that...I use my Nokia phones as mass storage on PCs with no PC Suite and I never get that warning.

Re: Trouble connecting at USB 2.0 speeds
 

Ok, final bit of wisdom on this topic -

it seems that in order to get USB2.0 speeds, the phone must be OFF!

Well frikkin' duh! God, why does Nokia even bother with the big ol' "enable USB storage mode" button to push, when they know darn well that it will cripple functionality!

It was an accident, but I plugged in the phone while it was off, I didn't realize it, then went to transfer files and did in 3 minutes what was taking 30-50 before.

Well all I can say is just "DUH"!! Pardon my infantilism, but, man, just duh.

ATTENTION NOKIA N900 USERS - IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE OPTIMAL FILE TRANSER RATES OVER USB 2.0, IT IS IMPORTANT TO BE SURE YOUR PHONE IS SWITCHED "OFF".

Would a little bit of big information like this have been too much for Nokia to pass on to its customers? I don't think so. Add this to the "beta user" list of chores we all must deal with!

Re: Trouble connecting at USB 2.0 speeds
 

Ok, there's 100% no pc suite required for mass storage on windows XP sp3, simply pug & play.
Tested this on a fresh xp install :)

Re: Trouble connecting at USB 2.0 speeds
 

Thanks for the tip. Been bugging me for ages this one!!!!!

Re: Trouble connecting at USB 2.0 speeds
 

ATTENTIO TO ALL "MY SYSTEM IS LIKE YOUR SYSTEM SO I'M RIGHT".

So question is. How many systems you have now succesfully evaluated with this problem? After I updated to 1.1 firmware i haven't had this problem.

Re: Trouble connecting at USB 2.0 speeds
 

This isn't a sure fire fix - and I don't want to have to turn the phone off every time I want to USB transfer.

I have.

Re: Trouble connecting at USB 2.0 speeds
 

I still have the 1.1 problem....the only way is to switch the phone off....I`ll try the PC suite and see if that fixes it

Re: Trouble connecting at USB 2.0 speeds
 

Hmmmm,

I'm using Windows 7 64-Bit, without PC Suite.
I've just conducted a test copying a folder containing 4*450MB Videos
Results are comparable whether the N900 is switched on or off:

Write to Internal Flash ("N900" partition) == 10 - 11 MBs
Write to External microSDHC == 5 - 6 MBs

Read From Internal Flash == 16-17 MBs
Read from External microSDHC == 9 - 10 MBs

FYI - the microSDHC is Class 2 Sandisk so I'm not expecting stellar behaviour.

As far as I can see, having the phone on or off make no diff.

Re: Trouble connecting at USB 2.0 speeds
 

still the problem persists!

Win XP SP3,Connected to a USB 2.0 port, nokia suite or no nokia suite the problem is still there....bummer!