I thought I had done all research before purchase. Please help
 

Okay, you all are a lot more technical then I am but I just got my N900 two days ago and so far I have slept a total of 5 hours trying to decide what to do now! I did not realize that this did not have voice command, or voice dialing. I did not realize that just because everyone said open source that I wouldn't be able to add app's like Google maps and thought I would get Ovi maps with Nav for free like what is posted on the Nokia site!

I have a Nokia N95 and have waited forever to upgrade because nothing had as good of options. What is important to me is, 1. hands free voice dialing, commands, 3G speed, data speed, tethering, VoIP, WiFi, touch screen, size of display, qwerty keyboard, smart phone, camera with flash! I want an everything phone and now I find that the very very importance of voice nav and voice command/dialing are not here!

Money is a priority and so now I am asking anyone here, will these things come, I mean in a relatively short time???? If not what now, N97? or should I hold out. Something like the Samsung Impression looked good but no WiFi. I don't know what to do, sell on eBay, get the N97 or the Motorola Milestone??? I have AT&T, left T-mobile and will never go back.

Thanks to anyone who can offer some assistance!

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calm down. Please change. I do not know you but what i understod from your text this is not yet device you have waited soooo long.Wait for next its not far away.

And normally customers can replace or refund devices.

Bothers me a bit that you say you have to have voice commands so what kind of customer you are? Did salesman fool you or what happened?

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Are you saying get a different phone? I have looked at every phone and nothing that I have seen does what I want. As far as if a salesperson fooled me I think that because I kept waiting for the right phone and nothing had "everything" I finally after reading more and more and seeing everything good about the N900, and wanting to stick with Nokia because my N95 was made so well and steps above all other phones out that I missed the part about not being able to do voice dialing! Really dumb on my part but patience isn't my strongest virtue and I didn't want to put my entire life, into Google's data base that I just said okay, here goes, and bang now I have it. Bought through Dell and a return they say can cost 15% restocking charge!

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The trouble with looking for the perfect phone - like the perfect house, perfect outfit or perfect man is that there isn't one.

The trick, in my experience is to make a priorities list: 'Must haves' at the top, things you'd like but could live without next, then wants, then dreams. Rule out any device that doesn't have your 'Must Haves' first or you are in danger of picking a device with lots of dream features but missing one or two essentials. It sounds to me like that is what you have done.

To be honest, if MMS were your 'Must have' or a Bible, extra profiles - any number of things I'd say Hang On. But neither voice dialling nor voice GPS are on the horizon. I would honestly suggest you put it down to experience and send the device back. Good luck finding something that has enough of what you need.

I'm still looking for a perfect man, though ;)

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Well I have definitely decided this won't work based on that but I would love it if someone told me of something they think might. Kathy thanks for your input and I totally agree with what you say. The problem I am having is that I have been looking and waiting for almost a year and I really want a solution. Do you think I would be happy with the N97?

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I don't think you'll find something that does ALL of that.

Have a look at the palm pre though - might be your closest match...

Milestone is a pretty good device too...

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I have a N900 but bought my wife a Nexus One. Her phone seems to have all the features the Nokia is missing (reasonable battery life, mms, snappy UI, turn by turn etc etc).

It had seemed the N900 was a better choice for me because I like to tinker with the device but I am starting to have some serious droid envy.

Watching her locate the nearest Starbucks faster than I could get the N900 maps application started was embarrasing. Then the Nexus gave voice directions to the coffee shop, something the N900 cannot do.

My kids thought it really funny that my "flagship" Nokia device lacked so much functionality.

The final problem .. the N900 refused to charge overnight even though the battery icon indicated it was charging. I had almost no battery the next day. Not amused.

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hands free voice dialing, commands, Sorry no
3G speed, nice
data speed, nice
tethering, yes
VoIP, yes, and does it very well
WiFi, yes yes yes
touch screen, nicest resistive touch screen ive used
size of display, 3.5 i say its nice
qwerty keyboard, yes
smart phone, this is more of an armel linux computer rather than a phone so yes
camera with flash yes


(im not saying that voice commands and voice dialing wont come with a software update, or a 3rd party program. cos this very well might happen, but not per this day.)

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I had first ordered the N900. Then Dell said 8 weeks to get it and then the Droid came out and I bought it on eBay, while waiting for it the Googlr Nexus one rumors started so I turned around and sold the Droid on eBay before I had gotten it in the mail. Then the Nexus One did not support 3G with AT&T and I was suprised and amazed at Googles poor choice of carriers. Have you looked at T-mobiles BBB report. I have had their service for 10 years and believe me it just gets worse. So I went on my dads AT&T plan and now I have good reception where there was none at all with T-mobile. So, now I am thinking either the N97 or the Motorola Milestone. I would maybe wait for the Motorola Backflip but it will be the size of the Cliq and have the same operating system and I don't think I want that. So, I think the Milestone!! What do you all think???

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Watch out that some like Nexus does meet more than dreams Kathy mentioned...

For you I guess any standard smartphone will do! N97 as you mentioned, was on my list on top before N900 came to my notice. I am searching for a good replacement for about a year now as you do... nothing met my "Must Have" yet apart of those. There is also a "Must Not Have" list in my mind.
Must have:
GPS, WiFi, GSM, EDGE, UMTS, SIP, keyboard, resistive touchscreen, calendar, proper syncing
(yes no voice-nav, I look at a map before I start and most likely I find the place. yes no voice-dial, where I need it; it never worked - not with Nokia phones - not with Ericsson - not with SonyE)

serious don'ts are
google phone (if the world would be a RTS game google is the techy).
Motorola (and all the other crap like Sagem or Apple...), windows

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I doubt alot of those features will happen on the N900. I recommend you get a Nexus One or N97 if you want more of a standard smartphone.

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I would recommend you look elsewhere, doubt voice command or dialing will come to the n900 anytime soon...

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Why not Motorola? And any smart phone for me doesn't work! That's the problem!

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it is worth noting that all the pieces to do voice dialing are present in the open source community...just so you know.

-Thom

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A man who's done his research. ;)

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In addition to the points mentioned, also take into consideration the TCO (Total Cost of Ownership), which is the cost of the equipment plus the cost of your services. I'm getting a new cell phone in March/April, and I was down between the n900 and a BlackBerry Bold.*

Here's my spreadsheet if anybody is interested: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?k...tN25CU0E&hl=en

*The following smartphones were disqualified:

• Anything from Apple: Lock-in to AT&T and Apple's obsession with lock-ins.
• Anything with no physical keyboard (it is the must-have like some folks mentioned)

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If you're not going back to T-Mobile, N900 is not for you as it doesn't have AT&T 3G.

From your "important" list, it looks like N97 is better fit for you, the most tricky one might be tethering you want, I'm not sure about Nexus One, but on any Nokia it's very easy (choice of BT or USB) and nothing need to hack to do tethering. I like N97 Mini more, though smaller screen.

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I think the N900 is a perfect phone EXCEPT with one big missing thing: OVI 3.03 Navigation!! Other than that everything is great....it's got keyboard, mms, nice camera with flashlight, emulators, fm radio/transmitter, best web browsing, push emails, Knots 2, recorder that can record song off radio and use it for ringtone, AIM/Yahoo pidgin.

So honestly, it's got EVERYTHING I WANTEED EXCEPT ONE THING aagain: OVI 3.03 Navigation w/ VOICE!!

I think it'll eventually come and FREE of course...but it'll take time which really suck!! By the time it comes out, it'll probably be switching to iPhone 4. That is why i am on month to month contract because i got a feeling iPhone 4 is going to take over the competition once again.

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Interesting TCO analysis...

Any reason you went with Clear data VS the TMob talk + data Or talk + sidekick data (saw post here somewhere)?

Thx

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1. I currently have Clear's Faster Home plan (6 Mbps/500 Kbps) for $40/mo. For $10/mo. more, I can get home + mobile. As I explicitly wrote, going down that route with a regular voice plan will be a kludge. :P
2. The cost of the data-only plan is equal to voice + Clear.
3. The plan associated with the BlackBerry was forced -- I had to get talk+text+web.

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I don't think there will be a restocking fee if you've only had it for a few days. Just return it if you feel it's not the right phone for you. When I preordered my phone from Dell I asked a few of the customer reps if there was a restocking fee if I were to return it and they said no. This was during the Dell preorder fiasco where they were shipping out recent orders before they shipped out month old preorders, so I had also preordered one from Amazon, and wanted to make sure I could return the Dell one if they shipped at about the same time. Or you could could just call Dell to confirm it (and make sure to get the rep's name just in case).

As for me, the N900 is probably the best phone I've ever owned, and I usually switch phones every few months :D.

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Interesting info, the post about voice maybe coming is what I was looking for. The N97 looks good still, is there anything about it that I should know that could or is a real negative? It isn't brand new so I feel like I am not getting state of the art but then maybe all the bugs have been worked out by now...???

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What's driving you up upgrade the N95 other than acute gadget lust? (As a fellow sufferer, I feel that's a reasonable question. :-))

Rather than getting the N97 at this point, which seems to be the strongest candidate for you *today*, go back to your phone company and negoiate a better month-by-month contract rate--related to the fact that you haven't upgraded. Sit back two months, and I *suspect* that Nokia will have fixed voice dialing. The N97 will still be there if the N900 hasn't seen voice dialing by that time.