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Crom 2010-04-17 12:30

Upstart-job package missing?..
 
Can't install IM services, eg. MSN, Facebook.

I've tryed to install pidgin protocols plugin and pidgin extra protocols, but i only get a msg that i'm missing a package. (upstart-job)
What is this, and where do i get the package.

I have flashed my N900 today.
I used to have haze, but i can't find and download that... :confused:

crazler 2010-04-17 15:08

Re: Upstart-job package missing?..
 
same problem here..

Crom 2010-04-17 19:41

Re: Upstart-job package missing?..
 
Well, i can't seem to find a solution to this problem..
It's a bit frustrating.
I'm a complete linux noob.
Is there anyone who can find out where this package should be located, and what it contains? Maby i can copy it from another user and make it work..

SaBeR 2010-04-19 00:07

Re: Upstart-job package missing?..
 
Had the same problem.... it frustrated the s**t out of me, tried EVERYTHING and still nothing.... everything worked except the missing package.

After about 7 reflashing attempts I tried something different...
WHICH WORKED:
Flash the device with the OLDEST firmware you can find!
IT WORKS! :D
you just update to the latest fw from the device.

CHEERS!
Post if it works for you as well!

crazler 2010-04-19 18:06

Re: Upstart-job package missing?..
 
OK, here is how it worked for me:
1. deacivate the extra devel repository
2. now you can install version 0.7 from the extra-repositorys
3. reboot
I think the missing package is in the next firmware?

lamle 2010-04-22 09:26

Re: Upstart-job package missing?..
 
Hi, I have the same problem with maemo-pc-connectivity about missing this upstart-job package. I tried all your version of flash image and also crazler 's advice but it did not work. Any idea please, I have been googling about 2 days and it frustrates me somehow. My problem was that I have a QT program running nice in the simulator already. However, when I export it as a .deb file, using fremantle-armel structure and copy to my N900, it cries about incompatible installation file. Then I think I have to connect my phone to the computer through pc-connectivity in order to deploy my application directly to my phone but then I got this upstart-job problem.
Any idea please!!

S1ackhax 2010-04-22 13:00

Re: Upstart-job package missing?..
 
Crazler, that did not work. upstart-job could not be found after disabling extra devel.

I hope it returns to the repositories soon...

jennifr 2010-04-22 14:14

Re: Upstart-job package missing?..
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by crazler (Post 618092)
OK, here is how it worked for me:
1. deacivate the extra devel repository
2. now you can install version 0.7 from the extra-repositorys

Worked like a charm for me, even without the reboot. Cheers for that!

Gazzlam 2010-04-22 14:16

Re: Upstart-job package missing?..
 
I have the same issue, but caused by a slightly different thing.

I got annoyed with the network errors, so I disabled MSN and Facebook.

Then (when I could be bothered), I uninstalled the Pidgin protocols.

Now they are still listed as accounts under "My Availability", but they don't appear in "Accounts", I therefore am unable to delete them.

I tried to reinstall, and then remove them, and that's when I noticed the problem.

I'm guessing no-one has a solution to the missing package, but does anyone know how I can remove the MSN and Facebook accounts, so I don't keep getting the "unable to connect to one or more accounts" every few mins?

Gazzlam 2010-04-22 14:22

Re: Upstart-job package missing?..
 
Ok, scratch that!

Jennifr & Crazler are right, that method works fine, I just failed to follow the instructions!

When installing 0.7, do it through the network category, don't do a search.

nenakno 2010-04-22 16:46

Re: Upstart-job package missing?..
 
Same problem as lamle with maemo-pc-connectivity. I suppose that the solution proposed for this problem does not help with the pc-connectivity because it can be found only in extra devel repository. Comments or workarounds?

joseblaho 2010-04-23 00:24

Re: Upstart-job package missing?..
 
Hi all,

IIm not able to find the repository the way its esplaines by deactivating the extras repository, there is no a direct link to download it???

james174 2010-04-23 00:28

Re: Upstart-job package missing?..
 
See here :)

joseblaho 2010-04-23 03:24

Re: Upstart-job package missing?..
 
guys! james174 link fixes this issue!!! try it and thank him!

Andre Klapper 2010-04-23 11:39

Re: Upstart-job package missing?..
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by crazler (Post 618092)
I think the missing package is in the next firmware?

No, as I run into the same problem with a recent Nokia-internal non-public firmware here.

totaltrash 2010-04-23 19:44

Re: Upstart-job package missing?..
 
I am trying to install Google Voice plugin for Conversations and Calls and I get the upstart-job application package missing. I tried removing the extra-devel and testing repositories but when I do that I can't find the application anymore. I've also tried searching through the repositories and I can't find any other version as it seems they've all been cleaned out by the sys. Any help would be appreciated.

EDIT: I looked around and found this: http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_5/PR1.2

Does the update to the upstart package mean potential fixes for all these problems?"

deusexmachina 2010-04-23 20:02

Re: Upstart-job package missing?..
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by totaltrash (Post 624944)

EDIT: I looked around and found this: http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_5/PR1.2
"

oh no! not again...

igorgomes 2010-04-24 03:13

Re: Upstart-job package missing?..
 
Any news on this? I can't find the upstart package even using the trick posted above...

Thanks!

totaltrash 2010-04-24 05:40

Re: Upstart-job package missing?..
 
It's my understanding that we're not looking for the upstart-job package so much as trying to install an older version of [any app] that doesn't have upstart-job as a dependency.

If anyone knows a fix to this or some ideas please chime in!

jake2kone 2010-04-26 09:19

Re: Upstart-job package missing?..
 
I had the same problem a few minutes ago.
I wasn't able to install the extra protocols for Conversations.

I just deactivated the Extras-Devel repository and tried again to install it. Then it works fine.

Don't search for the upstart job. You won't find it.

With deactivating the Extras-Devel, the App-Installer is showing "older versions" of software, so you can install it.

daflex 2010-04-26 10:42

Re: Upstart-job package missing?..
 
Still no solution for maemo-pc-connectivity upstart-job package missing then.... I've been searching for hours now and still can't find no way round.....

Im a bit disappointed now after reading maemo and maybe nokia support is being discontinued with the n900. I was very keen and happy to buy this phone only a month ago

totaltrash 2010-04-26 18:58

Re: Upstart-job package missing?..
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jake2kone (Post 628040)
I had the same problem a few minutes ago.
I wasn't able to install the extra protocols for Conversations.

I just deactivated the Extras-Devel repository and tried again to install it. Then it works fine.

Don't search for the upstart job. You won't find it.

With deactivating the Extras-Devel, the App-Installer is showing "older versions" of software, so you can install it.

I am fairly certain that the reason this worked is because there are mutliple versions of that app in the repository, one in devel [the new broken dependency version] and one in extras [the older working version]. This is not so for all applications. The telepathy-theonering (Google Voice) app has had old versions removed from the repository, all versions up to 0.8.11-0 I think. Since that version still requires the upstart-job package, and is not available in any repository except extras-devel removing that cataloge shouldn't do anything except take it off of the possible installation list.

I am trying to build an old version of theonering but I'm not too savvy when it comes to this stuff. I want to stress that removing the repo will only work if there is a working version in the extras repo. Still looking for a fix if anyone has ideas.

totaltrash 2010-04-26 19:57

Re: Upstart-job package missing?..
 
Sorry for the doublepost but I may have fixed the Gvoice issue I had. I installed the Extra Protocol plugins app and restarted my device (thx to f2thak for the reboot button). Then i forced install on the Google Voice plugin using apt-get install telepathy-theonering -f. If anyone was having this problem too I hope this helps.

devu 2010-04-29 19:31

Re: Upstart-job package missing?..
 
Yesterday I became flasher so... I had to end up in this place anyway :D. However, I am not sure that helped me because I had a buck-up but I bet many ppl has. It's actually very simple solution inside the application manager.

Even if you re-flashed it to the up-to-date PR. Basically in app manager you have button "Restore Application" and even if complaining about missing stuff let you continue anyway! It took me 1h to restore all of my 50 apps and everything working as before!

Hope this info helps some one too.

igorgomes 2010-05-04 23:09

Re: Upstart-job package missing?..
 
Just to record: The issue is solved with latest updates. I could install normally without any workarounds.

silence 2010-05-06 17:29

Re: Upstart-job package missing?..
 
If anyone still have this problem, please check this post as well.

MohammadAG 2010-05-10 00:01

Re: Upstart-job package missing?..
 
Ummm, why is this still a problem, it's only one control file to edit...
I'll see if I can package it


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