N8 available for pre-order for $549
 

The N8 is available for pre-order on nokia US site

http://store.nokia.com/webapp/wcs/st...01_-1_10000675

Priced at $549 + shipping, but wont be shipped until end of September.

Anyone one ordering it?

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no it's symbian....i am waiting for the n9.

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12mp camera, xenon flash, HDMI out, HD video recording, Dolby dont interest you my friend?

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Not when it's potentially one of the last remaining Symbian^3 phones and Symbian^4 is nearby with no explicit update path.

But all-in-all, this is a feature phone that brings a lot to the table. It'll sell millions.

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yes all good specs but symbian is not something i would want. where as the n9 will be meego.

I also prefer to have a pullout keyboard.

http://www.electricpig.co.uk/2010/06...pecs-revealed/

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wont it be eligible for updates?

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Nokia has stated that they will be shipping 50 million Symbian^3 devices. That means that E and X series will be getting it next.

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That's not the N9. It's more likely to the E7 since the specs are slightly lower than the N8 and similar to the C7 which also runs Symbian^3 http://chinese.engadget.com/2010/07/...-c7-hk-leaked/

http://www.blogcdn.com/chinese.engad...ac7sam2018.jpg

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yes its a prototype(n9 or c9)....and yes it's symbian....but if you read the report also you will see that it states the n8 is the last symbian.

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The report is based on anti-Symbian FUD or pure ignorance if it says it will be the last Symbian phone. What Nokia have said is that the N8 will be the last N-series Symbian^3 device. I would go on what Nokia said over what a blog says. http://conversations.nokia.com/2010/...bian3-devices/

Nokia have also stated that a Symbian^4 N-series device next year is also a strong possibility. http://conversations.nokia.com/2010/...ck-starts-now/

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http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE65N20Y20100624

i dont read that as anti symbian FUD?

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I am pretty sure there will be symbian devices, otherwise why would nokia work on symbian 4?

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Not the N-series though after the N8 is what reuters are are saying.

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Read the comments under that post. That should give you a better idea about the writer's history.

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they will work on symbian 4 for an update to many of there symbian 3 devices....of which they have a huge market share.

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the souce given was from a nokia spokesman:

"Going forward, N-series devices will be based on MeeGo," said Nokia spokesman Doug Dawson.

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That article came out June 24 quoting an unverified source.

The quotes I've listed above came on July 2nd "The Nokia N8 will be our only Nseries device on Symbian^3. Of course, we ‘never comment on future products’, but a Symbian^4 Nseries device is a strong possibility. A very strong possibility " from Nokia head of Mobile Solutions Anssi Vanjoki

and July 22nd "Starting with the N8, Nokia aims to ship more than 50 million Symbian^3 devices in the coming years, alongside devices using other versions of the Symbian OS." from Nokia CEO Olli-Pekka Kallasvuo and CFO Timo Ihamuotila.

You don't get any higher up than these people. :cool:

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so will the N8 die, due to lack of updates/enhancements or will it get an official update to 4?

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@ Maluka ...ok...you read what you want to read....i will now give up trying to explain to you about the N-Series not going with symbian after the N8 but rather they are going to go with Meego..

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They are of course going with MeeGo too. The N8 and N9 will be the top N-series devices.

What is more important is that Nokia is going with Qt. The Symbian and MeeGo phones will get the same apps and games.

http://www.softsailor.com/wp-content...se-500x375.jpg

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symbian will long continue but mostly in the mid-priced range whereas Meego will be for high end devices....well that's the jist from what i have read about nokia's future strategy!
am not knocking symbian but maemo kicks it's but and nokia are moving into a position to try and take back the smartphone sales against some big opposition and they appear to be heavily siding with meego as the future!.

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I'm of course also looking forward to MeeGo and have used Maemo devices for years but Symbian is still a better phone OS. Maemo has amazing computing abilities but Symbian is still very powerful. Symbian was let down by a crap amount of ram in the N97 which was their last flagship but later firmware updates have improved it a lot. I speak from experience, my wife has one.

The Symbian^3 devices will also be getting a new QtWebkit browser which should put it on par with the best browsers on other devices.

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If Vanjoki says S^4 is a strong possibility in the N Series going forward, that trumps anythig a random spokesperson said. Period.

Will it happen? Who knows. Is it a possibiltiy? Damn sure it is.

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I think the differences between Symbian and MeeGo will become less relevant in future due to Qt. Just looking at Nokia's track record, a top end Symbian^4 and MeeGo 2.0 device will probably come out again at the end of next year and a mid-range MeeGo 1.0 device should also pop up in Q3 2011.

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No scp, ssh, or vi, no interest.

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Yes, this very important is often overlooked. As time goes by a common app-pool will form and Qt itself becomes the platform. People don't quite get how an OS is not a defining aspect of the platform, but hey... Maybe people will (wrongly) call Qt an OS after a while, just like they Bada an OS (which it also isn't).

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That doesn't mean that Symbian^4 is not forthcoming. They're already showing beta screenshots of it.

What they will ship and what they have shipped are two different things. Symbian^3 is on the way out sooner than later.

That doesn't mean that this is not still a feature-laden phone that will have some nice audio and video capabilities. I personally just don't like being shoved into deadend OS paths and zero upgrade ability.

That shouldn't be too hard to understand - I like open ended options, not deadends.

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Couldn't agree more.

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Then get an iPhone if you want those kinds of force-fed updates. There is no guarantee that a newer OS version will work with an older device.

My iPhone 3G is slow as hell after the iOS update and I would have much rather preferred a firmware update for the previous OS that supports my phone's hardware. There would be more of an outcry if an automatic update to Symbian^4 makes people's phones run slower. Symbian^3 will be around for a long time just like S60 v5 now renamed Symbian^1 has moved to the mid to lower end.

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Yes, but with that price??? I rather wait until it comes down first.

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Oh no not another Symbian!!!
No symbian dead end OS for me after my N95 lol. Hey Iphone 3G doesn't have the underclocked CPU likes its younger brother 3GS. The cpu on the 3GS is 800Mhz cortex A8 underclocked to 600Mhz which explaint why iOS4 won't be a problem on it. On the other hand 3G ARM11 412 MHz, PowerVR MBX-Lite graphics running at full power. And doesn't have OpenGLES 2.0 support either that explained why 3G is slow.

N8 will be the same too, think about it, the next upgrade to N8 (N8-1) will be running atleast a cortex A8 (that's my guess not FUD) and it may have Symbian^4 and Symbian^4 may required a better cpu to runs smoothly. So No N8 or N9 for me. No MeeGo for a while until it readily matured and got plenty of free apps and good paid apps in the app store.

I'm not jumping into the pool too soon without knowing what's the danger in it like the N900. There might be a shark dwelling around to bite your butts off lol or abandening ship like N900.

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i concer...

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Thats always been the case with nokia phones. I pre-ordered my N900 for $650 USD + taxes, and it went down as low as $200 after rebates. Better of waiting.

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Yeah looks like a step back for the N series ... yay. Was hoping it would at least have meego on it .. but symbian ... gah.

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But N8 was announced/leaked long ago with symbian OS info.

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Funny how that's the common response. Seriously. "Get an iPhone if you want updates" is the best you can come up with.

Let's put it this way then. From the sound of it, you are against having an updateable OS. You are against having official support more than just a few months. You are against actually allowing your device of choice and OS of choice get each and every quirk, issue, flaw, and/or issue fixed over time.

In simpler terms, you have no idea how a so-called mobile computer should be handled; just like Nokia.

And ultimately, when people say rhetoric like "Buy an iPhone", it's not because of any "force fed" update or app request or anything else that may be brought in to justify such a puerile battle cry; it's quite possibly the stupidest thing you can say when iOS and Android phones can get updates and your choice of manufacturer believes otherwise.

I had an iPhone. I have an Android device. I avoided the N900 because it will not get the level of support I demand. You're happy with older technology, or faking the Flash Player to play stuff and hope that the developer of the flash video/website has not implemented Flash Player 10.x specific code and/or features.

What you're really saying is that you know down deep... you will not get a damn thing after PR1.3. Maemo 5 will be dead in the water like Maemo 4.1 before it (13 months). At this rate, MeeGo will supplant Maemo 5, and you will end up with a "community edition" of the OS that might work as good as the "hacker editions" did for the 770.

Here's a hint: they sucked. Let's see if these will to. I have no time for idle banter about "faith" - I have demands as a customer and Nokia has not hit that mark with Maemo 5 outside of my uses for it to remotely admin a machine.

I'm not always doing that **** on my phone. I can do that on my laptop too. Sooner than later, my OS on my servers will probably surpass the N900. Then what?

Here's another hint: more than likely nothing.

Turn off the Spotlight search in all areas via Settings. It will assist you in the speed area. My iPhone 3GS didn't lose any speed, my jailbroken 3G updated to iOS 4, and with the Spotlight Search settings trimmed, was just as fast as before. But guess what... at least I got the damn upgrade in order to figure that out.

Say the same. I triple dog dare you. The N900 has about 5 more months to make it to that 13th month... and MeeGo will be out before then. And then what?

Only if you're (as a customer) unrealistic and your manufacturer does what Apple happen to have done by not optimizing the code.

Funny how Android 2.2 is actually lighter and faster than 2.1 on a lot of phones. That's a clue as to how it should be done. Nokia pulled an "Apple" (unrefined and slow after update) with the "hacker editions"... lord knows the community based edition will probably falter in the same way.

I, for one, hope not. But to insinuate that updates is a "bad thing"... that's rather dimwitted.

Enjoy the lack of support. It seems to be rather fitting because none of you seem to want it.

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So because a future OS update may not be 100% compatible with your older device, it shouldn't be expected? You should expect your device to be supported. I feel sorry iOS scarred you, but its telling that when the option came for you to update, you took it. A $550 phone should not lose support after six months in this day and age. I wouldn't mine my n900 being "force-fed" an update right about now.

Good lord, after Nokia's travesty in supporting this phone and its very active community, I will not recommend an N-Series device to anyone for the next two years: time enough to see a mature Meego platform and whether Nokia has changed its monolithic approach to interacting with its costumers and providing meaningful support. The N8 has a nice camera, but with the advances in software of Nokia's competitors and far superior hardware, I could not imagine recommending this over its alternatives.