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NvyUs 2010-11-03 12:55
Round 1: Apples allegagation Nokia infringed patents are Unfounded says ITC staff
 
Nokia are winning the patent battle and are in the driving seat
NOKIA FTW
i love being a Nokia fan boi and what

ITC staff say Nokia have not Violated Apples patents and claims they have are unfounded

http://www.slashgear.com/itc-staff-s...nded-03111858/

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-1...one-trial.html

F2thaK 2010-11-03 13:12
Re: Round 1: Apples allegagation Nokia infringed patents are Unfounded says ITC staff
 
gagreat ..

Texrat 2010-11-03 19:35
Re: Round 1: Apples allegagation Nokia infringed patents are Unfounded says ITC staff
 
No surprise. Given the development history the odds were with Nokia.

And consider: Apple is the company that sued Microsoft for infringing on the concept of the GUI-- after Apple had gleefully taken from the freely-available work of Xerox Parc. :rolleyes:

Rauha 2010-11-03 19:44
Re: Round 1: Apples allegagation Nokia infringed patents are Unfounded says ITC staff
 
Just to be clear, this is no decision yet. It's just what the ITC's investigation staff said in their pre-trial briefing. Judge doesn't have ot follow the advice.

Still, I flicked trhough the document and it looks quite strong for Nokia. In the camera patent issue, Apple coulndn't even convince ITC that the iPhone uses the patent described technology, let alone Nokia. Apple also dropped quite many claims against voluntarily before trial.

ceroberts75 2010-11-03 20:48
Re: Round 1: Apples allegagation Nokia infringed patents are Unfounded says ITC staff
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK7TQVFSA1Y

pay close attention to :37 into the interview, in his own words.

ysss 2010-11-03 21:21
Re: Round 1: Apples allegagation Nokia infringed patents are Unfounded says ITC staff
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ceroberts75 (Post 862592)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK7TQVFSA1Y

pay close attention to :37 into the interview, in his own words.
He stole that line from Picasso... what a great man!

H3llb0und 2010-11-03 23:58
Re: Round 1: Apples allegagation Nokia infringed patents are Unfounded says ITC staff
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ysss (Post 862630)
He stole that line from Picasso... what a great man!
I am yet to find something that Steve and Apple haven't "stolen or borrowed" from others...

tswindell 2010-11-04 01:09
Re: Round 1: Apples allegagation Nokia infringed patents are Unfounded says ITC staff
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by H3llb0und (Post 862739)
I am yet to find something that Steve and Apple haven't "stolen or borrowed" from others...
You mean "re"invented with his really cool engineering staff?

nikolajhendel 2010-11-04 01:26
Re: Round 1: Apples allegagation Nokia infringed patents are Unfounded says ITC staff
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by H3llb0und (Post 862739)
I am yet to find something that Steve and Apple haven't "stolen or borrowed" from others...
Not that I'm a Stevo fan, but isn't that the whole principle of the modern western world:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standin...ders_of_giants

vkv.raju 2010-11-04 03:20
Re: Round 1: Apples allegagation Nokia infringed patents are Unfounded says ITC staff
 
No surprises here!!

Steve Jobs is the biggest cheater and liar ever known to mankind!! Rather I should say intelligent cheater & liar!!

EDIT: Btw, this piece of news doesn't yet appear on Engadget.com. Probably, Steve is not approving this to appear on his pet site.

gerbick 2010-11-04 03:28
Re: Round 1: Apples allegagation Nokia infringed patents are Unfounded says ITC staff
 
HA! Awesome.

kureyon 2010-11-04 03:55
Re: Round 1: Apples allegagation Nokia infringed patents are Unfounded says ITC staff
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Texrat (Post 862529)
And consider: Apple is the company that sued Microsoft for infringing on the concept of the GUI
I'm sure it wasn't the whole concept of a GUI that was being sued for, but that MS's rendition looked too much like Apple's. IIRC one of the consequences of that case was that Windows wasn't allowed to use proportional scroll bars - though at around that time the Amiga had proportional scroll bars, all the *nix windows managers have them but Apple haven't sued anyone else, yet.

When MS copy (and they do that all the time, or steal) they really do copy, like WP7's first iteration will have no copy+paste - just like the iphone :)

timwatt 2010-11-04 04:04
Re: Round 1: Apples allegagation Nokia infringed patents are Unfounded says ITC staff
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nikolajhendel (Post 862798)
Not that I'm a Stevo fan, but isn't that the whole principle of the modern western world:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standin...ders_of_giants
I couldn't agree more, the only reason the Patent Office is struggling is because people are trying to own property.

Building on existing knowledge is called Progress!

It is criminal that a child born today will be prohibited by law from using existing ideas and works until they are in the public domain after his death.

If sociality's laws are used to protect IP then, like physical property, one should pay property tax based on the value of the property.

Texrat 2010-11-04 06:10
Re: Round 1: Apples allegagation Nokia infringed patents are Unfounded says ITC staff
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kureyon (Post 862862)
I'm sure it wasn't the whole concept of a GUI that was being sued for, but that MS's rendition looked too much like Apple's. IIRC one of the consequences of that case was that Windows wasn't allowed to use proportional scroll bars - though at around that time the Amiga had proportional scroll bars, all the *nix windows managers have them but Apple haven't sued anyone else, yet.

When MS copy (and they do that all the time, or steal) they really do copy, like WP7's first iteration will have no copy+paste - just like the iphone :)
Apple sued Microsoft over elements that they had themselves got from the Xerox Parc work. The lawsuit went nowhere, as everyone in the industry with a brain had predicted.

efekt 2010-11-04 07:13
Re: Round 1: Apples allegagation Nokia infringed patents are Unfounded says ITC staff
 
This is definitely not the first time Jobs steals the work of others and then comes back to sue them for "infringing Apple's rights"... 'Looking Glass', anyone?
http://jonathanischwartz.wordpress.c...artists-steal/


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