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marxian 2011-12-17 23:59
[Announce] MeeFolders 0.0.5 - Sort your N9 applications
 
I announce the initial release of MeeFolders, an application that allows you to sort your applications into folders.

Features:

* Automatic creation of desktop files when applications are added to a folder.

* Automatic removal of desktop files when the folder becomes empty.

* Clicking on the folder desktop file launches the folder. The folder automatically closes when an application is launched.

* Applications can be added to multiple folders.


Some screenshots:

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/1...7233926.th.png http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/613...7233904.th.png http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/2...7233827.th.png

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/138...9155140.th.png http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/5...7233957.th.png http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/9...7234426.th.png http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/6...8204833.th.png

MeeFolders 0.0.5 is now available:

Changelog:

* Folders can now be edited.
* Application list now sorted in alphabetical order.
* Fixed single-instance problem when launching folders.

Debian package is available from http://ubuntuone.com/2VglViAp6OLmBWcooRHqM6

soleil 2011-12-18 00:04
Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 
GREATTT . I'm downloading it :) .Afrer added application in flders , can I delete their shorcuts in your application screen?

marxian 2011-12-18 00:15
Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by soleil (Post 1138892)
GREATTT . I'm downloading it :) .Afrer added application in flders , can I delete their shorcuts in your application screen?
You can't hide the shortcuts from within MeeFolders yet. I will add that feature later. :) The problem is that it requires root access.

tissot 2011-12-18 00:29
Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 
Awesome! Wasn't sure exactly how this was going to be done, but this seems to be almost the official way. Just the apps not disappearing when added to folders really being the only difference.

Wont matter much as long as you put the folders on top of the app screen.

youmeego 2011-12-18 01:02
Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 
i dont own n9 yet, so a youtube demo of this app is appreciated

warrentaye 2011-12-18 03:12
Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 
Great work except the one main thing that I would use it for is Bookmarks, which it seems not to be able to add unfortunately.

F2thaK 2011-12-18 06:32
Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 
f..k yeah, will try this later, looks the goods mate! on behalf of the community, Id like to say "thank you, youre awesome!"

sony123 2011-12-18 07:06
Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 
Thanks, you're amazing! But do you know if this is/will be compatible with PR1.2?

gerbick 2011-12-18 07:25
Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 
Holy snap! You used that icon!?

I feel great via proxy through your hard work Marxian.

F2thaK 2011-12-18 08:01
Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 
Does this not replace stock app screen? If not, its no better than the other app made... Im really hoping that you will make it a replacement.

Edit: I see how it works now... A couple of suggestions though: once an app is added to a folder it should not show where it was before. Also once you go into a folder theres no quick way of going back. Plus, can we change folder names?

bwayne 2011-12-18 08:42
Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 
I tried to uninstall this app but the green icon still in my app list,how to remove it.thanks


edit: problem solved:o:o

pycage 2011-12-18 09:57
Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by marxian (Post 1138894)
You can't hide the shortcuts from within MeeFolders yet. I will add that feature later. :) The problem is that it requires root access.
Maybe it doesn't require root access at all, if the N9 follows the freedesktop.org standard well enough.
Look at the menu editor for GNOME. It can hide system wide icons for particular users. Maybe it works the same on the N9.

almamo 2011-12-18 11:20
Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 
Hello, I'm coming from the iOS community but I'm happily about to learn about maemo/meego.

MeeFolder looks really good! I started to work on something like that - with moving .desktop files to folders in MyDocs while deleting them out of use/share/applications. This way they disappear from the main icon grid and I can make them show up in my app. But being new to QL and the hole maemo/meego harmattan thing, I'm having my problems to make it work as an application and also a hard time with root/aegis and so on...

Also lack of time makes it impossible to work on such a project right now. So I'm happy to see MeeFolder, although it doesn't unlisted apps (yet?) from the main-grid. MeeFolder could really become a "killer-app" :) Most people are looking for something like that.

I also was working on the appearance of the project like folder icons.

@Marxian: Let me know if you could use them. I made them in Photoshop and Illustrator after the rules of Nokia Icon illustrations and they can be modified in any way (form, colors etc). Every folder could also have it's own folder-icon (games, docs, etc). My example just uses the general 4-square-application icon (as found in settings/applications). So this way media apps could be stored in a purple/pink Media folder, Navigation apps in a green Nav-Folder etc… Hope you understand my logic behind :)

Here's an example:
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/...Folders_ex.png

Let me know if interested :)

TMavica 2011-12-18 13:13
You are always my idol
I like the Web catalogues, and waiting the open music player as you mentioned before

marxian 2011-12-18 13:43
Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by almamo (Post 1139018)
Hello, I'm coming from the iOS community but I'm happily about to learn about maemo/meego.

MeeFolder looks really good! I started to work on something like that - with moving .desktop files to folders in MyDocs while deleting them out of use/share/applications. This way they disappear from the main icon grid and I can make them show up in my app. But being new to QL and the hole maemo/meego harmattan thing, I'm having my problems to make it work as an application and also a hard time with root/aegis and so on...

Also lack of time makes it impossible to work on such a project right now. So I'm happy to see MeeFolder, although it doesn't unlisted apps (yet?) from the main-grid. MeeFolder could really become a "killer-app" :) Most people are looking for something like that.

I also was working on the appearance of the project like folder icons.

@Marxian: Let me know if you could use them. I made them in Photoshop and Illustrator after the rules of Nokia Icon illustrations and they can be modified in any way (form, colors etc). Every folder could also have it's own folder-icon (games, docs, etc). My example just uses the general 4-square-application icon (as found in settings/applications). So this way media apps could be stored in a purple/pink Media folder, Navigation apps in a green Nav-Folder etc… Hope you understand my logic behind :)

Here's an example:
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/...Folders_ex.png

Let me know if interested :)
Those icons look great. I would very much like to use them for the folders. :) It would be great to have a different folder icon for each folder.

tissot 2011-12-18 14:03
Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 
Yeah, those icons look awesome!

Quote:
Originally Posted by youmeego (Post 1138904)
i dont own n9 yet, so a youtube demo of this app is appreciated
http://nokiagadgets.com/2011/12/18/m...ur-n9-or-n950/

noetus 2011-12-18 15:01
Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 
Does Marxian accept donations for all his hard work?

noetus 2011-12-18 15:26
Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 
One immediate suggestion for improvement: if you open a folder, then open an app, the folder sub-app disappears. This is good, and 'correct' behaviour. However if you swipe the sub-app away to get back to the main app screen then it doesn't disappear but remains in the background. Indeed, if you open the sub-app again there will be two of the same sub-apps open in the background! You can potentially open an unlimited number.

Also, if you swipe the sub-app down to close it on purpose, it does close, but you are left in the open-app view instead of back at the main app screen.

The best solution would be for the sub-apps to check whenever they are in the background, and close themselves if so. They basically should never be open and in the background.

There is also a slight delay when opening the sub-app 'folders'. Any way to speed this up?

noetus 2011-12-18 16:10
Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 
Another few comments (sorry to be monopolising the thread here).

Anybody who wants can easily disable the icons they have put in folders by going into /usr/share/applications and (as root) renaming the corresponding .desktop file (AFTER putting the app in the folder) to something else, e.g. skype.desktop to skype.desktop.off. That won't affect the visibility of the icon in the folder. Of course this requires you to be comfortable with command line, modifying system files, etc, and I am sure Marxian will get around to implementing this automatically quite soon.

Feature request: I would like to modify the names of the Folders, *and* the names of the applications I've moved into folders. Where are the files located that will enable me to do that? I tried adding a new .desktop file in /opt/meefolders/desktop but it was ignored by the Meefolders app. EDIT: I found a workaround. I can change the names of applications by editing the .desktop files in /usr/share/applications BEFORE adding them to the folder, and I can change the names of the folders by editing their .desktop files in /home/user/.local/share/applications AFTER creating that folder.

noetus 2011-12-18 16:35
Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 
Some more updates/comments.

It appears only icons from /usr/share/applications appear within the Meefolders application itself for adding to folders... none of the icons from /home/user/.local/share/applications appear, e.g. web shortcuts added by the user. Can you add these too (except the icons Meefolder itself adds there, of course). EDIT: I found a workaround for this, too. I can copy any .desktop files from /home/user/.local/applications to /usr/share/applications I want (this requires some messing with permissions though), then add this to the folder I want, then delete the newly created .desktop file in /usr/share/applications (doesn't affect what I put in the folder).

Makeclick 2011-12-18 17:09
Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 
Do not use this. Wait the pr1.2 ;)

marxian 2011-12-18 17:14
Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 
@noetus

The next release will address most of your requests. :) I don't think I can do anything about the slow launching of the folders. It involves launching a QML application, which will always take a couple of seconds. I am using the qdeclarative-boostable to speed it up as much as possible, as well as keeping the QML as lean as I can.

marxian 2011-12-18 17:15
Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Makeclick (Post 1139129)
Do not use this. Wait the pr1.2 ;)
Good luck with that. I challenge you to hold your breath until it arrives. :p

Hakki_01 2011-12-18 17:44
Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 
Can we arrange app icons in our own order?
What timeframe do you need for integrating the removing part of apps that are placed in folders?

coomac 2011-12-18 18:04
Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Makeclick (Post 1139129)
Do not use this. Wait the pr1.2 ;)
No one is forcing you to use it. Don't be a douche.

clovis86 2011-12-18 18:06
Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by coomac (Post 1139154)
No one is forcing you to use it. Don't be a douche.
BTW, I'm surprised there is not already an epic thread regarding pr 1
2 :D

marxian 2011-12-18 18:07
Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hakki_01 (Post 1139147)
Can we arrange app icons in our own order?
What timeframe do you need for integrating the removing part of apps that are placed in folders?
The application icons are ordered according to when you add them. You can change the order by re-adding them in a different order.

I'm not sure about the hiding of .desktop files. I haven't yet found a way to do it as user. The only method I've found hides all .desktop files, not individual ones.

noetus 2011-12-18 19:11
Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 
Brilliant work Marxian!

OK, so you might notice that if you have Opera installed and you move it to a folder, the icon disappears and the name changes to something else too. This happened with the "other app" for custom folders too so I suspect some weirdness with the opera install. I got some strange results when I tried to modify the operamobile.desktop file so instead of that I just created a new one (I called it opera.desktop) and disabled the old one:

Code:
[Desktop Entry]
Name=Opera
Comment=Mobile Web Browser
Exec=operamobile
Icon=/usr/share/icons/blanco/80x80/apps/operamobile.png
Terminal=false
Type=Application
Categories=Web;
I modified the opera icon to be a squircle one to fit in with the rest of the icons, and while I was about it I did the same for the Firefox icon. These are the only two that don't match the Harmattan theme I have on my phone. Here they are in case anyone wants to use them:

http://i40.tinypic.com/34ozipx.png

http://i42.tinypic.com/262qv08.png

noetus 2011-12-18 19:13
Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by marxian (Post 1139133)
@noetus
I don't think I can do anything about the slow launching of the folders.
What about having all the folder-apps open on the startup of the phone, but invisible on the app view screen, becoming visible and then invisible when needed rather than starting up and shutting down?

I don't even know of it is possible to hide apps from the app view screen, but it must be somehow.

noetus 2011-12-18 19:18
Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by marxian (Post 1139156)
I'm not sure about the hiding of .desktop files. I haven't yet found a way to do it as user. The only method I've found hides all .desktop files, not individual ones.
Since this is just a stopgap solution until PR1.2, you could just provide instructions on how to do it manually. If people can figure out root access to their phone it's not hard. The steps don't even involve very much typing, and could even be done from the phone's own terminal screen, though it would be a bit tedious for a large number of icons I suppose.

marxian 2011-12-18 20:57
Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 
Update: Version 0.0.2 now available.

* Added support for applications with desktop files stored in /home/user/.local/share/applications.
* Added support for user-definable folders/icons.
* Folders now close when minimised.
* Created .desktop files are now removed when MeeFolders is uninstalled.

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/6...8204833.th.png

Debian package available from: http://ubuntuone.com/5GGbcTn25ogejxMQt3Z9W7

All existing folders will be removed upon installation, due to creation of a clean database.

noetus 2011-12-18 22:04
Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 
That was quick!

gerbick 2011-12-18 23:26
Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tissot (Post 1139073)
Thanks for sharing that vid, but maaaan. It was so close, shaky and whomever the person was kept scrolling all the way up and down, and that didn't show me anything.

And yeah... that new icon is leagues better than my 5 minute exercise. Please use that.

F2thaK 2011-12-18 23:26
Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 
I have a problem, after updating I have an old Social folder left...

marxian 2011-12-18 23:51
Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by F2thaK (Post 1139249)
I have a problem, after updating I have an old Social folder left...
Just remove the .desktop file by entering

Code:
rm /home/user/.local/share/applications/meefolders_social.desktop
There can't be any items related to it, since the old database is deleted and a new one created in a different location.

clovis86 2011-12-19 00:41
Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 
tryin' to remove some shortcuts from the desktop ( once they are in my fav folder :D ) but some weird appz like the " drivin map" is hard to find ( strange name in /usr/share/applications )
Do you copy the shortucts put in folder somewhere ? would be easier to find all shortcuts alreay on created folders

Thanks ;)

marxian 2011-12-19 01:09
Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by clovis86 (Post 1139266)
tryin' to remove some shortcuts from the desktop ( once they are in my fav folder :D ) but some weird appz like the " drivin map" is hard to find ( strange name in /usr/share/applications )
Do you copy the shortucts put in folder somewhere ? would be easier to find all shortcuts alreay on created folders

Thanks ;)
I don't copy the .desktop files. I would if was modifying/removing them.

The 'Drive' .desktop file is named nokia-drive-qml.desktop

almamo 2011-12-19 01:12
Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by marxian (Post 1139063)
Those icons look great. I would very much like to use them for the folders. :) It would be great to have a different folder icon for each folder.
Ok great! I will make a usable .png of the one shown earlier and work on some more. Since it's soon christmas time it might take a lil bit, but it will be a pleasure to draw them :)

I didn't find out how to send private messages, so could you please send me a mail to c4_info[at]yahoo.com ? This way I can send you the files.

clovis86 2011-12-19 02:14
Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 
damn, renaming "shortcut.desktop" from /usr/share/applications after adding them to a folder is not working.
I choose one app in its folder, the folder screen is closing and then nothing, I'm on application menu and my selected app is not lauching.

of course, renaming the sortcut in /usr/share/applications to original name make the app working again but .. :/

HtheB 2011-12-19 02:14
Re: [Announce] MeeFolders - Sort your N9 applications
 
3 Attachment(s)
This is how my menu looks like now, THANKS!

I attached a zip file with the icons.
The icons are taken from the N900 shared hildon icon folder.

I also added a transparent icon. Just add an app in it to make it appear. Just use a space as the name of the icon.

Note: If you want to add a second transparent icon, you need to give it a different name, you can bypass this problem by giving it "2 spaces" as a name, and so on..

I've done it 8 times now which gave me this result:
(I like the portrait mode how the last icons only shows the half, which means you know that you can scroll down for more)


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