True, and you're right, but I think he makes a good point of topic for future conversations with Nokia. They've done it again--even after we gave them flack for it after the N8x0's, for all the closed-source and the WONTFIXES and the FIXED IN FREMANTLE and generally neglecting customers in the myriad ways that they did after building up good faith and reputation on claims of openness and community. The community council IS still talking to Nokia, right? They DO still have relevance, I would hope.