Exactly, these both turned out to be more of a cult devices and comparatively general population knows more about palm pre then n900, in that case n900 is worst, but the design of n900 is more elegant (just not the thickness) than the palm pre had (in my view). But if these both OSes were sitting on the more sexier device that has a mass market appeal and with the same marketing that palm invested in pre could have been a different story I believe. Also they first came out with only Sprint, they should have targeted verizon in USA who has a larger consumer base, also verizon did not have droid then, with verizon ads along with palm's advertisement together it would have been where droids are.