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	Estel	2012-04-04 , 19:16
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Originally Posted by Reggie

What the current council has failed to do is just about that -- communicate.

How hard is it really to contact X-Fade for example? I pinged him earlier this morning and notified him about timoph's thread and minutes later he was there on the thread replying.

Sorry, but this is just a bunch of BS. It's fine that You were successful @ contacting X-Fade - maybe You're not in his "infamous" blacklist. SD69, freemangordon, Pali etc. all haven't had such luck - they were trying to contact X-Fade for literally *months*, and their attempts were well documented (It seems, that You haven't read "Ask the Council" thoroughly).

So, basically, it's nice story to hear, but it doesn't solve problems we're facing - and answer to your question should be "F*****, insanely hard", if I would just dare to use such words in such dignified thread. Ops, it seems that I've done it already...

Originally Posted by Reggie

marias (of Nokia) has mentioned that he has attended *every* council meeting, and yet how did it happen that nothing was conveyed?

Simply - because it's big BS again. One and only council & Nokia meeting that was held wasn't even finished, and SD69 tried to arrange continuation for months again. He also mailed (etc.) marias with some direct questions regarding things from meeting, and again, despite re-trying to contact casually, he haven't got any response. It was just "total ignore".

Originally Posted by Reggie

Reading through the "Ask the Council" thread, I'm surprised to see that this Plan B idea originally came from the Council. The idea was left in that thread and nothing was posted anywhere else. Imagine how confused I was when I got this email from the council:

I never responded to that email since I wanted to get more info.

Anyway, how can anyone be really sure "what the community wants" if the community was never asked nor informed? This is probably the best time to do these things. I hope the current council can facilitate this task and at least post something in the Council blog so everything is black and white. I think the future direction of Maemo.org, with all the options discussed. I'm sure not everyone will be happy with the results but hey, we need to hear the voice of majority of the community and not just from 5 folks.

Oh and please, technically I'm part of Nemein. I don't get instructions from Nokia. I do my job to make this forum run smoothly since it was moved from Internet Tablet Talk (technically from day 1).

Here I agree - I think tools like Council blog could and should be used. BTW, It's nice to know that - technically - You're part of Nemein, yet, again, it doesn't solve our problems with "pushing" them to do any work (or, at least, being contactable).

As for You, I think that no one blame You about being unresponsive (which doesn't mean, that some forum improvements - like mentioned configurable "Active Topics" filters - aren't going to be a possible request in future).
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Generally, it's quite interesting thing to read this topic - people, that contribute daily, (by code, like freemangordon, Pali, or by management work/communicating, like SD69) are well-informed and treat problems we're facing as sure thing - after all, after 6-7 months, You can get used to

On the other hand, people that focused on other projects and/or aren't active in CSSU, kernel-power, or other Community projects, come here and "defend" X-Fade, Nemein, or Nokia employees, just for the sake of it.

/Estel

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