huh, i have symbian devices since 2006. and i had some HTCs with windows mobile (even fixing it here used to cost as much as new phone...for example, flat cable for tytn I was like used tytn I...and i am talking just about one tiny cable,,,(10cm)) but i give respect to windows mobile, it was multitasking, about symbian, for more than two years i really don't have enough of time for phones, and i was somehow putting aside symbian, but last night, i was writing some code in python (on device) and i actually saw how fast E7 is comparing to n9/50. app runs like instantly...no delay...once i got argued with guy because i said that controlling apps are faster on symbian than on pc...yes it really is...there's no delay in switching between apps, there's no glitch, there's no "stucked" thingy....it just runs. yes, most of symbian devices are 128MB of ram and e7 have 256 and it is main reason all runs so fast, but, really, symbian was something like running windows nt (win2k - 2ooo) on dual core pc and ui is like having win7... if there would be symbian port for n9/50 i would install it right now (but with dual boot ) you must try it, n8 have great camera and it's like sister to e7. it can't play youtube in background because it's designed to pause all videos while you are not watching them (eg, you get sms or phonecall...) but this can be patched...i think that two best things that ever existed on mobile phones came from nokia (symbian and harmattan) so, it's really sad to see that they're killing it and why are they doing it? - no reason... either they have something that will shock us all once is unleashed or it's just being unable to compete with iOS, but there's something we don't know. once, i've heard that elop, when came to nokia lab, saw device that were very innovative and that would would be amazed with it (this is not something i have references to, it's something i've heard). i am really not much into nokia and such (company plans...i don't track it at all), but, as soon as nokia announced that they are making symbian opensource, i knew that they are killing it/replacing it...(my posts are still on symbian-freak forum). so, as i am aware, elop got nokia in state where he had to do something to save it...former team (who actually introduced PlatSec and made agreements with operators......) are held responsible (by my side) for their fail. i was there when nokia fought us because we was hacking platsec...it was literally like war, they did almost everything to stop it, but once hole is found, there was no patch. if there's any way to get symbian device (even n95) get it and play with it, it's very nice mix of smartphone and telephone. i saw post by some guy here, can't really digg it now and i am not enough member to know who wrote it, but guy had better plan for nokia than nokia's management...it's sad to see WP as top os, it's sad to see that n900 was only device with maemo5...really really sad...