Thread: Let's talk Nokia stock. Really.
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Lumiaman
2013-08-05 , 15:36
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Originally Posted by uTMY View Post
@Lumiaman

Actually I agree with Switch, dead men walking simply don't outsell competitors.

However it was also clear that others like Apple and newcomer Android were progressing.

If Nokia had really wanted to distinguish itself it should have created a fully open stack to compete with Android and then built cross development tooling and frameworks to bring over the Symbian developers in a graceful migration.

Burning Symbian over night and then just expecting everyone to follow Windows like sheeples was just plain madness, no one wants Windows on their phones after 2 decades of Windows on their desktops except a small minority.

As I already said though that strategy has been and gone, Nokias only chance now is to create 100% fully open hardware and hope the world will forgive their recent utter disaster and that others will be willing and able to create new and viable phones such as Jolla, FirefoxOS, Android, YukBuntu etc.

ie, let the market decide what it wants rather than trying to forcefeed Windows onto the masses.

rgds
Symbian was dead man walking, they were giving Symbian phones away across Third World to keep up the numbers. I think they tried with Maemo, and Harmattan, but something was wrong with the leadership. Maemo 5 was the best product because it evolved from 700 devices, but for some reason it took sooo long to release N9, and still sooo imperfect. And this is all prior to Elop. Clearly leadership was not hungry enough to throw Symbian under the bus earlier and focus on a better platform. By the time Elop got to Nokia the OS camps were well delineated. And there are several posts from ex-maemo employees documenting the leadership issues that killed development of more open platforms.

Vast majority of people dont care if system is open or closed. They care how well it works. Although Android powers huge amount of devices, all I see around me are iphones and few lower end Androids. at least in the usa, most higher end users, use apple, with some android penetration but most of it at the lower end, and that is why the android numbers (just like Symbian in the past) look inflated. Nonetheless, whether open will win over closed system, is a point of semantics. Its amazing that Apple can produce a single phone a year and beat up on everyone. It tells you that people value quality and performance. I am curious what will happen when apple releases budget iphones....

In this forum people want open device so they can tinker. Great. 99.99999% of the people want it to just work, and that is what sells. n9 and N900 didnt work well. N8 was the biggest flop. All of this was prior to Elop. He could have gone to bed with Google, and it would have been me too. He went with WP8, a lesser me too. I wish they continued on their own OS, but I think he chose to focus on one thing and do it well. Maybe he should have focused on Meego, maybe he should have focused on something else. Maybe he just didnt trust the programming culture at NOKIA to trust them with software solutions (and they certainly didnt make it easy with N900 and N8 and N9).

I built a house out of steel reinforced concrete that can withstand 300 mph winds. The buyers could care less what was in the walls. All they cared was about the colors. There you go.