I spent considerable time argumenting my response to him. You ignored all that just to tell me this? I might get your point if my response to him would have been only a slight at the argumentation error, but it was not.

Anyone, of course, feel free to argue why you think Jolla has been open about the pre-order shipping process. I am sure there are many opinions. I don't personally think Jolla has been open about the pre-order shipping process or progress.