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Originally Posted by HtheB View Post
Android has become much much more mature than you guys think. It has all kinds of features already that other OS's still lacks.
There is no need to bash an OS, just because it's not your taste.
You're missing the point.
AFAIAC (and I'd wager I'm not the only one), the problem with Google (and by obvious extension, Android) is not about whether their products are mature, stable, nor that they have whatever features other OSes don't (or the other way around).
It's definitely not a matter of taste either...

The problem is more of philosophical and ethical nature.
Let's not forget Google makes its money with all the data they gather from... just about everywhere.
This absorption is built-in at the core of Android's structure (and every website and service Google has its tentacles in).
The philosophical conundrum is thus: are we OK with them gathering and exploiting so many data about us (some of them they do warn about, but there's more than just those) ?
Do we actually care (or even know) about it ?
If we don't, is it because we don't have the technological knowledge to do something about it, or because we only want to use the tools everybody is using, because it's easier no matter what the effect on our liberties is ?
If we do care, are we doing anything about it ?
Against it ?
Is it even possible, or do we just submit, because the battle is already lost, so we might as well give in ?

Of course all of this is about privacy.
Speaking of which...

Originally Posted by HtheB View Post
I don't care about 'privacy' issues, because nowadays you can run, but nowhere to hide
It seems like you've yielded already.
Yet, just because it's definitely not easy (or even completely possible) to hide, doesn't mean we have to surrender and obediently bask in the joy of using every tool they throw at us.
Alternatives exist, but of course when it comes to social apps/programs, the problem is convincing other people to try something else.
For some other tools, you can block js, or even sites/domains/whatnot that are constantly being phoned to for the sole benefit of the companies.

To get Goldwin's law out of the way, if all people just chose not to fight anymore, most of us would be raising their right arm on a regular basis...
Obviously the fight is not the same, but the one we have now is quite the insidious one nonetheless.

You don't have to fight actively, every single day, all-day long, but even a modicum of concern is better than doing nothing while the world is definitely not going in the right direction for regular citizens.

I encourage each and everyone here (and beyond) to check The Hated One's channel on... Youtube (which is ironic in its own right, but I suppose that's how you reach the masses).
I'm not advocating that everything he says is gospel, but at least he cites his sources, which is always a good thing.

For anyone actually not caring about privacy, or just wondering what the fuss is all about, at least watch this video.



Originally Posted by HtheB View Post
At the end, this device is probably going to help us all who wants a hardware keyboard:
- Some will use Android
- Some will flash some other OS over it.

Liangchen, thank you for all the hard work <3
Many people waited a decade for this
No argument there

Yet, to rerail the thread a bit more, my interest in the Pro1 is two-fold: HWKB (because I loved that with the N900), and a real open Linux-based OS (because I guess you've figured my position about Android by now ).
I'm glad SFOS is being worked on for the Pro1, and that Leste may happen as well, but as much as I want to support Chen for attempting this, I won't commit to buying it if it ultimately only works on Android (or some unfinished or not fully usable FOSS/OS).

Last edited by British; 2019-05-16 at 13:20. Reason: Typos / Added "Ethical", because that's what the GAFAM and such trample continuously
 

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