wow what a huge amount of hysterical teen girls on their period here! Never thought I could drive so many people crazy with my humble posts. for clearing things up, please make sure of the following: 1. did I break any law? if yes, feel free to call police, if unsure - consult your local lawyer. 2. did I break TMO / maemo.org ToS or forum rules? if yes - call moderator. if unsure - re-read them, since not having same-as-yours point of view or not having same-as-majority point of view is NOT a violation of ToS / forum rules. 3. if you are against freedom of speech, you should migrate to North Korea or travel in time to 1939 USSR, both options will keep you out of this forum and you'll do fine. 4. why do you call me liar? should I sue everyone for that? as already been told, not having same-as-yours point of view cannot be called a lie. 5. is this some kind of religious cult forum? if yes, I feel sorry for not converting to your cult and abusing your beliefs. quit hiding behind this "not official release date" and so on. they did collect money, oficially or not - doesn't matter. it was all fun and jokes BEFORE money are taken from customers. after that point, there's RESPONSIBILITY. you can't take money _NOW_ and promise goods _SOME DAY_. there SHOULD be an "official" release date and if there's no such - any "unofficial" will do. if the seller is unsure about the date, he SHOULDN'T tell any dates at all to evade misunderstanding! not official, not unofficial. it's NOT customer's problem to identify when seller is announcing a shipping date or announcing his favourite month! that's not how MARKET works! promising ANY date and breaking it is NOT okay! the only thing keeping the team alive is uniqueness of the product. but that is NOT their achievement BUT current smartphone market flaw! so Chen's reply in sense of "make your own slider" is totally wrong, because he's not first on the planet to make slider, just first in 2017-2019 to REMAKE already invented design! if whoever copies that design fast enough - Fxtec is dead. so the only appropriate way is to shut up and focus on releasing the device BEFORE someone else might. instead, he's getting hysterical at the forum blaming and threatening CUSTOMERS for HIS MISTAKES! that's total nonsence. maybe in Chinese mentality it's totally okay but I haven't heard this device won't go global. and if one's targeting to global market, please ensure you have global level of customer care, PR and marketing. refusing to do so will not do anything good for the future sales or aftermarket relations (for example: "can I have a screen replacement" - "oh yes I will send it to you maybe some day when I'm in a good mood. and if you're pissed off with that - STFU or I will sue you!"). peace folks. less Stockholm sydrome since it's your money being held as hostage, not mine :P