Oh, btw, my iRiver H320 is still the best mp3 player I have used to date. Amongst other things, with the Rockbox firmware and a Newertech 2200mah battery, I get greater than 30 hours of playback time in RW playback scenarios. Thats with a hard drive based player, btw. The n800 doesn't have to deal with power sucking hard drives, so what is its excuse?