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Originally Posted by giannoug View Post
Get another one while you can, if you encounter the same problems the problem lies between the chair and the N900!
Some of the other members of the #maemo IRC channel also said that it was my fault that two of the N900's went into an infinite loop on boot-up, but we couldn't figure out exactly what I was doing to cause this. If you could help figure this out, it would show that you're not just posting unhelpful comments here.

These are the possibilities I thought of:
- Is it because I'm installing weird software? Three times out of four, I did not enable any new repositories, but I guess it could be that software that has gone through extras-devel, promoted to extras-testing, and has had enough votes to go to just plain extras, could still have some weird bug. (One time the error triggered because I enabled extras-devel to install BlessN900, but that time there had been no system slowdown or weird error messages.)
- Is it because of a bad SIM card? Forum members said that this was next to impossible (to have this error, not to have a bad SIM card)
- Is it because of a bad microSD card? Forum members said that this was next to impossible (to have this error, not to have a bad microSD card)
- Is it because I created a symlink from ~/ to ~/MyDocs/.documents? "~/" is on a Linux filesystem (ext3 or ext2 or whatever) while ~/MyDocs/.documents is on vfat, so maybe that blew it up. But if I recall correctly, the error happened even without the symlink.

Any advice would be appreciated.

@MiK546:
Are you sure you haven't enabled extras testing or devel because if you have tried BlessN900 you have them enabled. If you have enabled either of them maybe something from there is causing your broblems.
I did not enable extras-testing/extras-devel out of fear, but the error happened nonetheless.

After a while I got sick and tired of not installing anything out of fear, and decided to do it. As far as I can tell, it doesn't make a difference whether or not I enable extras-devel/testing. (Btw, I immediately disabled extras-devel/testing to make sure nothing stable would get accidentally updated to a newer, buggier version.) I think BlessN900 is extras-testing, not extras-devel. I also installed Midnight Commander, which is essential for browsing and retrieving files over ssh; MohammedAG says it's rock-solid stable, and I believe him.

@Matthew Maude:
sounds like you have something installed that causes this, if not then have you transferred any media to it that may contain a virus although its linux rather than windows or mac a virus targeted at them can cause random problems for you so either scan all your media that you transferred and all the emails or remove all downloads that aren't from the stock catalogs.
if it is down to a virus you got then you'll have to re flash, make sure you use upto date os and emmc
I, too, suspect something installed but can't tell what it is. All the files I transferred to the device were backups from the device. I don't have any downloads that "aren't from the stock catalogs", as I had mentioned. It seems rather unlikely that a virus would have gotten onto my Kubuntu system and then transferred onto the N900 (which doesn't even use a x86 processor), but I had already followed your suggestion of "you'll have to re flash, make sure you use upto date os and emmc" several times, as I noted in my previous posting.

@YoDude:
Do you use a SIM?
Yes, I do use a SIM. Do you think it could be because of a bad SIM card? I have been using the same SIM in my old phone for about six years now; I'm not sure I want to change it because I would have to change my phone number (among other hassles that outweigh the disadvantage of just not using a N900).

@pantera1989:
You must be very unlucky if this happened to you twice. After flashing are you reinstalling your previous software? Maybe one of them is causing this. And try booting without a microsd. Try flashing with different versions of PR 1.2 (global, UK etc)
Thanks for the suggestions. This is probably the most helpful reply so far. On reflection, it is conceivable that it's the MicroSD, since:
- if the bootup sequence involved checking something about the MicroSD, an error might launch it into an infinite loop
- if this problem occurs, it's easy to remove the microSD card; unlike the SIM card, I don't have to remove the battery to remove the microSD card
- I'll try flashing different versions of PR 1.2, although chances of success are slim. When I tried to flash just the firmware, the problem remained; I had to flash the eMMC also in order to get a working system again, so I think the problem is not in the firmware. But it's worth trying.

I guess my point is that I don't think it's just luck. It looks like there's a problem inherent in the N900. Other forum members have told me that they have been using the N900 for a long time with no problems, but that doesn't really help me. Even if I'm able to use the N900 from now on with no problems, until I can figure out what caused the problem I cannot rely on it: my phone might go wonky on me at any time, and in this day and age of relying on cell phones, this is not an acceptable situation.