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2010-03-16
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#12
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Both the "Community" and "Development" headings of maemo.org have clear links to the wiki, and the very first article within the "Power User" section of the wiki (where it belongs) is the "Help testing software" article which provides details on how to enable the testing repo, how to view/search the list of packages available on this site, how to test the software, and how to vote for packages once tested.
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2010-03-16
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@ Berlin, Germany
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Originally Posted by nidO
Sorry, but when I read that I had to laugh.
Both the "Community" and "Development" headings of maemo.org have clear links to the wiki, and the very first article within the "Power User" section of the wiki (where it belongs) is the "Help testing software" article which provides details on how to enable the testing repo, how to view/search the list of packages available on this site, how to test the software, and how to vote for packages once tested.
You want people to go to Development (even when not being a developer) selecting the quite hidden link to the wiki, there looking into the power user section to learn about testing software? That's absolutely no way an average user would ever go!
The link in Community is a bit strange. Sitting in a section called "get help" the link is titled "use the wiki". I would read that like "get help in using the wiki". I want to vote for a software and not learn how to use a wiki!
But most important point is: there is no working search. This is the killer argument. And don't reply with something like "use google". google finds everything. But I don't want everything, I want relevant results. And without deep knowledge about the structure of the site I can forget google. Having this knowledge, I don't need google.
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2010-03-16
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@ Helsinki, Finland
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#14
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Extras-testing is not meant for your average user. Seriously, leave the testing to advanced people who won't mind using buggy or incomplete software.
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2010-03-16
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@ Berlin, Germany
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Oh, sorry, I thought this call for help was for real:
Originally Posted by soeiro
I see, I still have a lot to learn about maemo.
I've noticed that there are quite a few packages that seems to be "abandoned" in extra-testing, just because nobody is seeing them!
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2010-03-17
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Originally Posted by x-lette
This call for help came from me, a normal maemo.org user who is trying to help. It is very real and I think that there is a huge backlog.
Oh, sorry, I thought this call for help was for real:
I see, I still have a lot to learn about maemo.
However:
Originally Posted by x-lette
Not only extra-testing is buried. Regular package browsing is not available, either. Maybe putting the link on the main community or download page could improve the situation. There could be a warning in the same page.
Sorry, but when I read that I had to laugh.
You want people to go to Development (even when not being a developer) selecting the quite hidden link to the wiki, there looking into the power user section to learn about testing software? That's absolutely no way an average user would ever go!
The link in Community is a bit strange. Sitting in a section called "get help" the link is titled "use the wiki". I would read that like "get help in using the wiki". I want to vote for a software and not learn how to use a wiki!
Originally Posted by x-lette
The general search box in maemo.org sucks, it hardly ever finds anything. It could either be improved or all major stuff could have static links in some pages.
But most important point is: there is no working search. This is the killer argument. And don't reply with something like "use google". google finds everything. But I don't want everything, I want relevant results. And without deep knowledge about the structure of the site I can forget google. Having this knowledge, I don't need google.
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2010-03-17
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Originally Posted by joppu
I think I would classify as an "advanced" or "power" user, or even a developer. However, I've missed that entry point to the extra-testing page in the wiki. Maybe I didn't have the time to read that particular wiki. I've found it by using google.
Extras-testing is not meant for your average user. Seriously, leave the testing to advanced people who won't mind using buggy or incomplete software.
Maybe a little more visibility could improve overall quality: more eyes looking for bugs.
My current approach is to surf the forum and use the links that are given there. If no one offers a link to some software, I probably will never see it.
With the current layout and structure of maemo.org you are standing in your own way. Sad but true.