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But the key point here is the "mobile internet devices", which, in my opinion, by no means should be confused with smartphones. I believe these are still going to be quite rare in the future, though not as rare as they were, but still not that mainstream as the rest of the N series phones.
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Originally Posted by nowave7
Except of course that the example they gave is, in fact, a smartphone (the N900).
But the key point here is the "mobile internet devices", which, in my opinion, by no means should be confused with smartphones
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Originally Posted by johnkzin
According to whom? Nokia describes it as a "mobile computer".
Except of course that the example they gave is, in fact, a smartphone (the N900).
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2009-09-08
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
From the linked article:
According to whom? Nokia describes it as a "mobile computer".
"According to statements made by Jonas Geust, vice president, Nokia N-series players, Nokia plans to use its Linux-based Maemo mobile operating system only on high-end mobile internet devices, such as the N900."
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Originally Posted by johnkzin
I don't see "smartphone" in there.
"According to statements made by Jonas Geust, vice president, Nokia N-series players, Nokia plans to use its Linux-based Maemo mobile operating system only on high-end mobile internet devices, such as the N900."
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles
In what way is the N900 _NOT_ a smartphone?
I don't see "smartphone" in there.
And, from wikipedia:
A smartphone is a mobile phone offering advanced capabilities, often with PC-like functionality (PC-mobile handset convergence). There is no industry standard definition of a smartphone. For some, a smartphone is a phone that runs complete operating system software providing a standardized interface and platform for application developers. For others, a smartphone is simply a phone with advanced features like e-mail, Internet and e-book reader capabilities, and/or a built-in full keyboard or external USB keyboard and VGA connector. In other words, it is a miniature computer that has phone capability.
All of which is pedantry, since the article itself says nothing at all about smartphones, that was just nowave7 and I discussing the issue. He could just have easily have said:
But the key point here is the "mobile internet devices", which, in my opinion, by no means should be confused with WHATZIFUTS
So, how about replying to the intent of the statements, instead of being pedantic about words that have no precise definition in the first place.
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Nokia doesn't yet consider the N900 a smarpthone, that said, ti does consider it a mobile internete device (MID), and per how they have been marketing N-Series devices over the past years, one could mix the two up pretty easily.
You want definitions of a smartphone (past and present), this piece I did pretty much nails it (Gartner and a few others have weirder approaches to this definition IMO):
Old Definition
New Definition
The N900 fits clearer under the latter than the former due to Nokia's current positioning of itself with Ovi and other web service endeavors. But its all semantics and marketing to be honest; and the N900 isn't designed so much to be a smarter phone, as its designed to be a smarter approach to mobile (data) computing.
You want definitions of a smartphone (past and present), this piece I did pretty much nails it (Gartner and a few others have weirder approaches to this definition IMO):
Old Definition
Smartphone are cellular-based mobile devices which utilize an operating system that allows for the addition of natively-written third-party applications and are created on a PC-like architecture
Smartphones are mobile devices which utilize cellular and wireless software to enhance the user experience of mobile-enabled services by connecting to those services by direct ties into the operating system and hardware of the mobile device.
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This isn't mere semantics either, johnkzin. While there may some fuzziness in the industry about what a smartphone is or is not, Nokia is very careful in defining product types (to a fault I can assure you as one who used to support demand/supply networks) so it would be a mistake to see the word "smartphone" in a description of Maemo devices. If it's not there specifically, it's not intended to be.
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Originally Posted by Texrat
It wasn't a statement, one way or the other, from nokia about smartphones. It was a generalized comment made in the discussion thread here. It _was_ just a matter of pendantry to quibble over it.
This isn't mere semantics either, johnkzin. While there may some fuzziness in the industry about what a smartphone is or is not, Nokia is very careful in defining product types (to a fault I can assure you as one who used to support demand/supply networks) so it would be a mistake to see the word "smartphone" in a description of Maemo devices. If it's not there specifically, it's not intended to be.
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