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2007-01-12
, 15:32
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Any ideas?
Mostly, the n800 stays in my bag or my pocket for the majority of the workday. I pull it out from time to time to jump online or just play with it. But it's when I get home after work that I really want to use it to read RSS feeds or what-have-you. It routinely runs out of battery after 20 or 30 mins of this use after having been powered on (in the bag) for most of the day.
I have to believe that I'm doing something wrong. The 770 handled this scenario without breaking a sweat. I could even skip a night on the charger and use it similarly for a second day. Because it went to sleep when I flipped the 770 in its case.
I thought (previous post) that if I simply hit the power button and selected 'Lock screen and keys', then it would ignore screen pressure in my bag and eventually go to sleep on its own. Sadly, that isn't the case. I noticed that upon screen pressure, the n800 happily turns the screen on and announces 'Press (power) and (select?) to unlock screen....'. This keeps it from truly suspending and eats battery life. (It also stays connected to the AP in range, which doesn't help. But this wouldn't really matter if it would just go to sleep.)
If it sits on a desk before going into the bag, it will eventually go to sleep, with a press of the power button needed to wake it up (rather than a tap of the screen). This doesn't make sense to me, as it limits the environment in which you could use the device effectively (think plane or bus).
If in order to extend the battery to an entire workday, I need to power the n800 up and down then it immediately loses much of the appeal for me. A tablet, in my eyes, serves an immediate-action sort of role.
Anyone else running into this?
Mostly, the n800 stays in my bag or my pocket for the majority of the workday. I pull it out from time to time to jump online or just play with it. But it's when I get home after work that I really want to use it to read RSS feeds or what-have-you. It routinely runs out of battery after 20 or 30 mins of this use after having been powered on (in the bag) for most of the day.
I have to believe that I'm doing something wrong. The 770 handled this scenario without breaking a sweat. I could even skip a night on the charger and use it similarly for a second day. Because it went to sleep when I flipped the 770 in its case.
I thought (previous post) that if I simply hit the power button and selected 'Lock screen and keys', then it would ignore screen pressure in my bag and eventually go to sleep on its own. Sadly, that isn't the case. I noticed that upon screen pressure, the n800 happily turns the screen on and announces 'Press (power) and (select?) to unlock screen....'. This keeps it from truly suspending and eats battery life. (It also stays connected to the AP in range, which doesn't help. But this wouldn't really matter if it would just go to sleep.)
If it sits on a desk before going into the bag, it will eventually go to sleep, with a press of the power button needed to wake it up (rather than a tap of the screen). This doesn't make sense to me, as it limits the environment in which you could use the device effectively (think plane or bus).
If in order to extend the battery to an entire workday, I need to power the n800 up and down then it immediately loses much of the appeal for me. A tablet, in my eyes, serves an immediate-action sort of role.
Anyone else running into this?
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2007-01-12
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@ Philadelphia, PA
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You are right, there is no longer a way to put it in "sleep" mode. You can set the touchpad and keys to lock, but as you noted a physical touch of the screen turns it back on a moment to tell you how to unlock it. I think all the 770 did was turn off wifi, bluetooth, and the screen. Of course, you also had the cover to prevent accidental touches to the scrren.
So I think what we need is a little taskbar applet that locks those things simultaneously, and disables the touchscreen too. Anyone know how to do that?
Last edited by jayholler; 2007-01-12 at 16:49.
So I think what we need is a little taskbar applet that locks those things simultaneously, and disables the touchscreen too. Anyone know how to do that?
Last edited by jayholler; 2007-01-12 at 16:49.
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2007-01-12
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@ UK
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2007-01-12
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Awesome, maybe I will give it a try. Never developed anythingbefore, so it should be fun!
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2007-01-12
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@ "Almost there!" (Monte Christo, Count of)
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Originally Posted by jayholler
I don't get it: If I put my 770 to sleep with the hardware button ("lock touch screen and keys" option, everything stays off until I hit the power button and the enter key. I can hit the screen as hard as I can (well, not really, because that would be stupid), but it will not come on.
You are right, there is no longer a way to put it in "sleep" mode. You can set the touchpad and keys to lock, but as you noted a physical touch of the screen turns it back on a moment to tell you how to unlock it. I think all the 770 did was turn off wifi, bluetooth, and the screen. Of course, you also had the cover to prevent accidental touches to the scrren.
So I think what we need is a little taskbar applet that locks those things simultaneously, and disables the touchscreen too. Anyone know how to do that?
Is this option no longer available on the N800?
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2007-01-12
, 17:25
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@ Nottingham UK
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Originally Posted by Karel Jansens
That is still there and works.
I don't get it: If I put my 770 to sleep with the hardware button ("lock touch screen and keys" option, everything stays off until I hit the power button and the enter key. I can hit the screen as hard as I can (well, not really, because that would be stupid), but it will not come on.
Is this option no longer available on the N800?
Although you need to wait for the screen to timeout.
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2007-01-12
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Originally Posted by uczmeg
Exactly. If I let it sit on a desk, it times out and then I need to hit the power button to wake it up. But this behavior doesn't make sense in the context of mobility. If you shove the thing in your pocket, it will never timeout since the repeated screen touches will cause the n800 stay awake.
Although you need to wait for the screen to timeout.
I'm thinking that locking the screen and keys should truly do exactly that. Or maybe a long keypress on the back button (on the home screen) could put it to sleep....
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2007-01-12
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Originally Posted by daverod
If you send nokia regarding this issue, they will probably reply, "it's not a bug, it's a feature." And then you will SCREAM LOUDLY when you read the email, "F*** THAT"
Any ideas?
I thought (previous post) that if I simply hit the power button and selected 'Lock screen and keys', then it would ignore screen pressure in my bag and eventually go to sleep on its own. Sadly, that isn't the case. I noticed that upon screen pressure, the n800 happily turns the screen on and announces 'Press (power) and (select?) to unlock screen....'. This keeps it from truly suspending and eats battery life. (It also stays connected to the AP in range, which doesn't help. But this wouldn't really matter if it would just go to sleep.)
If it sits on a desk before going into the bag, it will eventually go to sleep, with a press of the power button needed to wake it up (rather than a tap of the screen). This doesn't make sense to me, as it limits the environment in which you could use the device effectively (think plane or bus).
If in order to extend the battery to an entire workday, I need to power the n800 up and down then it immediately loses much of the appeal for me. A tablet, in my eyes, serves an immediate-action sort of role.
Anyone else running into this?
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2007-01-12
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@ London, UK
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I must say I don't want another taskbar applet, I want a shortcut keypress that achieves the same thing as slipping the cover on the 770.
I enjoyed the ability to surf on a train right up until the train stopped, safe in the knowledge that slipping on the case was a two second job before I left my seat. Now with the N800 I have to faff aounrd with a tiny recessed button on top of the device (which doesn't actually achieve the same effect as putting on the case) and I don't want a taskbar applet as I may have to switch from the full screen browser to the home screen and prod the applet with a finger/stylus - all of which will take longer than is necessary.
No, what I want is a shortcut keypress. For example, holding down Home for 2-3 seconds, or double-clicking Home (the latter should be faster for those in a rush). This would have the exact same effect as putting on the case cover - there should even be the checkbox in the Connections dialog to leave the wireless enabled once the device is in "sleep" mode. Resuming from sleep mode would be accomplished by holding or double clicking Home again, or perhaps pressing two different front buttons.
Last edited by Milhouse; 2007-01-12 at 18:15.
I enjoyed the ability to surf on a train right up until the train stopped, safe in the knowledge that slipping on the case was a two second job before I left my seat. Now with the N800 I have to faff aounrd with a tiny recessed button on top of the device (which doesn't actually achieve the same effect as putting on the case) and I don't want a taskbar applet as I may have to switch from the full screen browser to the home screen and prod the applet with a finger/stylus - all of which will take longer than is necessary.
No, what I want is a shortcut keypress. For example, holding down Home for 2-3 seconds, or double-clicking Home (the latter should be faster for those in a rush). This would have the exact same effect as putting on the case cover - there should even be the checkbox in the Connections dialog to leave the wireless enabled once the device is in "sleep" mode. Resuming from sleep mode would be accomplished by holding or double clicking Home again, or perhaps pressing two different front buttons.
Last edited by Milhouse; 2007-01-12 at 18:15.
Now that I've got the 800, I realized that I can't find a way to explicitly put the device to sleep. What I noticed is that when I put the 800 into its soft case, then into my pocket (or my bag), it seems to go back and forth all day. I'm assuming pressure on the lcd wakes it up. By the end of the day, my battery is worm down.
I know I can hit power and then lock the lcd and keys, but do I really need to do this every time? (and then again to recover....)