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2010-05-28 , 01:31
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#31
Originally Posted by wmarone View Post
No, that's "your N900 cratered" not "your N900 was bricked."
ROFLMFAO

That was funny.......


But on a serious not I agree here It is impossible to brick the n900
They only condition i can see it being bricked is if the hard drive malfunctioned and stopped working which I think i slim but then again who am i
 
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2010-05-28 , 01:35
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#32
Originally Posted by excelar8 View Post
it's over 9000!
I'll shoot him down. ^^
 
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2010-05-28 , 01:36
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#33
Yeah, one of the better points of the device
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2010-05-28 , 01:46
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#34
I came as close as you are going to get doing an OTA to PR1.2 on mine.
It got stuck in a mode where is was saying it was updating and to leave it alone after 8 hours it was still in that mode, turning it off, taking the battery out resulted in it coming back on in that mode. It just went back to that same mode again and again, trying to flash it fresh would not work because it would not come out of that mode no matter what you did to even get it into usb flash mode.

Finally I hit upon the idea of taking the battery out hooking up the USB cable and holding the U key down as I slid the battery back in and was finally able to get the USB symbol up in the top corner and flash it.
But for a day I thought it was a going back to Nokia for a hardware reset.
 
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2010-05-28 , 02:25
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#35
Originally Posted by geneven View Post
Yes, I'm happy to see someone bring back proper usage of "brick".

If it is bricked it is like a brick. It doesn't light up. It doesn't charge. It just sits there like a brick.

Unfortunately, so many people use it incorrectly that you may as well assume that a phone reported as bricked isn't bricked till proven otherwise.
Some level of charging is a hardware function.
It will charge to ~3.7 volts slowly, using the inbuilt charger chips default settings.
And this will light up the charging LED a solid yellow.
This is totally independant of the CPU.
Though it automatically tries to boot when it hits a certain voltage.
 
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2010-05-28 , 03:28
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#36
Originally Posted by silvermountain View Post
I agree with you. Way too much 'fear-mongering' and even blatant trolling about how the N900 can be bricked.

Just some quick examples:









Etc, etc, etc...
I was thinking the same way but with regard to thread titles.

@ abill_uk

A little over a week ago you started this thread:

Beware of some applications available on this forum can seriously damage the os.

Now today this one:

N900 is virtually impossible to "brick" here is the chance for everyone to have input on this and put credibilty back to the N900.



BTW, thanks for the "chance" to provide input but the credibility of the N900 was never a question for me.

Originally Posted by YoDude View Post
....Have fun and enjoy a phone that you can hack to death and then bring back to life rather easily. With out having to know a secret handshake or by joining a 'leat forum or suttin'
Originally Posted by YoDude View Post
...The real strength of the N900 over other devices that you have this level of access to (by whatever means) is that no matter how badly you screw it up, in 20 minutes or less you can bring it back from the dead.

The dang Lazarus phone.
...perhaps credibility is a problem for others when they see the titles to threads like these pop up on the main board.

>> http://talk.maemo.org/search.php?searchid=7520308
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2010-05-28 , 04:05
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#37
Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning.

You are way too optimistic about the power of Nokia engineers to prevent every possible f.up that a stupid user can think of. We, at maemo.org, are just a small set of mainly geeky people and we cannot even imagine the things your average Joe might do, so yes, for us it may be way too, close to the damn-impossible to brick the N900; but for them it maybe is as easy as plugging an ethernet cable into a wall el. socket...
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2010-05-28 , 05:42
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#38
Originally Posted by u2maemo View Post
I don't know the difference between N810 and N900. But I indeed bricked my N810 by doing
warning: please don't try it, if you don't know for sure.
Code:
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mtdblock0
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mtdblock1
/dev/mtdblock0 is for bootloader
/dev/mtdblock1 is for config

Now there are nothing show on screen when do firmware flashing or firmware cold flashing by using USB.

I know there are Serial Console connector under the battery which perhaps can be used for cold flashing.
TTL level converter is needed and tools to access pad connector also needed. I have found this



I haven't try to unbricked it because I haven't bought these tools.

Under Nokia label, other pad connectors can be found perhaps for JTAG port. But no function for each pad connector can be found.

N810 don't have ROM/BootRom let user choose booting from NAND or from MMC/SD, when all code on NAND is zeroed, it will be bricked. That's all I know about this situation.
There has certainly been some clever thought out comments on this thread regarding the topic but really why bring in the jtag possibilities which is high level using specialist tools and high level code and we all know this is just not within normal programming done from this community and really is pointless to even talk about as the bricked situation i referred to was only regarding software being installed from developers on the community via the USB port OTA or wireless methods !.
When i referred to bricked mobiles on the threads asking help it was always obvious to me that it was in fact NOT a true sense of the word "bricked" and time to bring it to the forefront as a wrongly used and termed explanation of a fault brought on by self programming by whatever means.
This is also a means to give every "noob" user CONFIDENCE to play and take the worry out of killing the device altogether knowing their is a simple way to reset the N900 back to working order in any event.
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abill_uk is offline abill_uk
2010-05-28 , 05:46
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#39
Originally Posted by silvermountain View Post
Oh, there was no mocking intended. I was simply agreeing with him
Seeing some of abill_uk's posts I'm pretty sure he has a good sense of humor.
Oh don't worry lol i am certainly old enough and stupid enough to joke and sometimes defend myself by reckless talk on here.
Luckily i do have the knowledge to know better so i just let everyone rant on regardless lol.

ps no offence taken on your post.
 
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2010-07-09 , 21:32
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can any one help me...... i m usual mob user .. i rcently try to unstall kernel by x terminal bt failed... then i reboot bt my n900 does nt start... only show nokia sign ......... plz help me ........... wht to do.......
 
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