Originally Posted by shady

i still cannot fathom how rediculous this all is when the fcc documentation provides a keyboard. ppl would rather follow the blind than look to the FACTS that we have. no fcc sticker, no story ... the early claim was that a dev device wouldnt need fcc testing becuase of its low distro numbers now a phantom device that is being used dosnt need any fcc testing at all ... ?

Originally Posted by NvyUs

There is zero true MeeGo devices by Nokia in this discussion, only 2 Harmattan devices

Originally Posted by shady

i dont know how feeble minded most of you are, these users whove hijacked this thread have provided nothing but hearsay.

fine the teaser may have been leaked with no indication of release other than a direct acknowledgement from nokia. so im to believe a poster of 2 days over nokia...? really? proof, hiding behind an NDA only proves you dont know. to me its too easy to make a claim and hide, its the internet and usually when someone makes a claim they provide collateral ... you refuse and as such prove you dont know. no risk no reward, your typing is not enough for me ... an anyone else, but i cant claim to be swayed so easily.

i still cannot fathom how rediculous this all is when the fcc documentation provides a keyboard. ppl would rather follow the blind than look to the FACTS that we have. no fcc sticker, no story ... the early claim was that a dev device wouldnt need fcc testing becuase of its low distro numbers now a phantom device that is being used dosnt need any fcc testing at all ... ? its the one that will be sent to "consumers" sold "en masse" yet nokia has barely released 2 symbian phones this year, and im to believe that theyll get their **** strate and release two meego devices within a month?
PROVE IT!!! thats right you cant because you wont so your word will continue to fall on deaf ears. choose what you want to believe but if nokia has a "warehouse" of devices ... it would stand to reason to sell them before cannabalizing those sales so they are really left holding the bag, how does THAT makes sense, no part of your claims make sense.

other devices not pictured in the teaser should not be discussed in THIS thread which is clearly about the decive in the leaked teaser.

Originally Posted by cfh11

NDAs are no joke, as you would know if you had ever been in a position where you had to sign one. You can get in serious trouble by violating one. So people are not "hiding behind" the NDA, they are just doing what they promised when they signed it.

various people "in the know" have posted in this thread and we have every reason to believe them as they have been right so far. when that 2nd kbd-less device clears the fcc you will eat those words

Originally Posted by casper27

It also says theres a SD card slot so don't read too much into that.

Originally Posted by zehjotkah

Koajwujwer123 does have the consumer device.

I was told that the consumer device will have the same CPU as their future WP7 devices. Therefore I assume it will have the ST Ericsson one.

Originally Posted by nwerneck

Sorry, I am not getting this. Are we talking about _two_ MeeGo devices being released a few months apart from each other? How unlikely is this?

All this "consumer device" and "developer device" idea doesn't make any sense. First of all, I'll eat my N800 back lid magnet (missing, ha!) if Nokia ever distributes a device "just for developers", and not simply sell it like any other phone. They may not advertise it, make it available only at a few places, hand them at conferences first, etc, but I can never imagine Nokia or any other company having a product that is "almost" a normal product... You don't want devices that were handed to developers to be sold in the black market, for example. And it's just more complicated to have a "different" device in your list to manage.

It's very credible to me that they had the MacBook-looking phone with a 1 GHz Cortex-A8 ready by the late 2010/early 2011, but then decided not to release it, and will now release it with some nice software update. Hopefully this update means to be running MeeGo 1.2. This will be the device we will include in Wikiepdia as "N900's follower".

Now you are telling me there is a second MeeGo device to be released, with no keyboard and a dual-core Cortex-A9? Sorry, it just makes no sense to me. The Nokia I know tortures us with late hardware upgrades, hoping that great software is making for it (e.g. phones has too little RAM and storage memory, not too fast processors, etc, but run a Symbian that should need less CPU, and is cheaper...). That goes with the Cortex-A8 being released now, but contradicts the A9 MeeGo...

But it could be that Nokia changed, right? Well, if they had REALLY changed, they would just release the A9 and be happy with it. They would at least avoid releasing to devices that are too similar to each other, a mistake they have done before...

If there are two MeeGo devices arriving, one with a outdated processor and another with a dual-core, they better make this first one very cheap, or something.

It's much easier for me to believe that the dual-core "consumer" device is not MeeGo, but actually the first WP7 device, that we know is also being developed. It may also have two versions, with and without keyboard.

It could be that Nokia developers had access to this dual-core system and managed to run MeeGo on it, it's totally possible. But I don't think Nokia will release this any soon. Maybe by the end of the year...

Nokia N900 is still being sold, and it's still expensive. These devices are die-hard!... There will be no successor to it only to have a second successor a few months after.

But what do I know? I am no secret agent talking with insiders, all I can count on is with my flawed common sense...

Originally Posted by Brock

why shouldnt there be a sd card slot? do you know more then we do?

EDIT
the specs at gsmarena are very speculative, i wouldnt belive it...